Talk:Muppet

talk show

What's the source for this entry? User:AKR619 didn't provide the name of the talk show. —Scott (talk) 04:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

sources

Would probably need to add sources Bigshowbower 05:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

There's sources for all this stuff on Muppet Wiki -- check out the Doctor Who page there. That's where this information was taken from. -- Danny<staff /> (talk) 06:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

Aside from this article's all out copying from the Muppet wiki it's context within the Doctor Who universe is questionable. There are two references according to this article one is a 'Tutter doll' that appears in a flashback in The Runaway Bride, it's a very minor reference (which is interesting on the Muppet wiki as it's their focus, but here it's not all that relevant), the second is a reference to the Cookie Monster from Winner Takes All if this needs to be mentioned it can be on the Winner Takes All article, it's also a reference to the Cookie Monster rather than to Muppets in general.

The 'Doctor Who contributors who have contributed with the Muppets', it's a list, I'm not sure really what information it gives to our site.

The trivia elements could (if sourced) be included on the individual actors' article pages. --Tangerineduel 13:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't nuke the entry, I'd just edit out the extraneous elements. and provide a link to the Muppet Wiki article, obviously. --Stardizzy2 14:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

The Doctor also mentions in "Tooth and Claw" that he loves The Muppet Movie. At the beginning of the episode, he tells Rose: "1979, hell of a year! China invades Vietnam... The Muppet Movie -- love that film! -- Margaret Thatcher, uggghhh... Skylab falls to Earth -- with a little help from me, nearly took off my thumb. And I like my thumb, I need my thumb. I'm very attached to my thumb." -- Danny<staff /> (talk) 16:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I second deletion; I contemplated tagging it for deletion myself. The most of these things can go on story or character pages. (And I grew up with the Muppets. I love the Muppets.)

Lisa: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"

Homer: "Well, it's not quite a puppet, and it's not quite a mop, so to answer your question, I don't know."

Monkey with a Gun 16:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

well, we have articles on The Lion King, Britney Spears and sundry other small references. why don't I just whittle down the less relevant content and you can decide if this deserves deletion. --Stardizzy2 17:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna say that the deletion proposal failed, since we've now firmly established in T:DEL that "brevity is not a reason for deletion". The Muppets are a part of the DWU, by virtue of Tooth and Claw alone. I suppose the difficulty of this article is like any of these franchise articles. Finding the line between discussing the information known in the DWU, and that outside it, is very difficult. This is why we now have Star Trek and Star Trek (franchise), for instance.

I suppose, therefore, there's a question still of how much information this article requires. But the existence of a Muppet in the DWU is established by the line in Tooth and Claw and it should stay.

To at least partially assuage user:Tangerineduel's concerns, the list of people connected to the Muppets that used to be on the bottom of the page has now been converted to a category and then reincluded through dpl. Thus, it can be removed from this article if necessary, but we still have the information in a convenient form on a category page.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 17:40: Thu 19 Jan 2012 

I believe this has largely been resolved? But we might want to clean up the BTS a bit more still. Najawin ☎ 00:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Bear in the Big Blue House

Is that show actually a Muppet show? I haven't watched it and don't know that much about the franchise, but it just seems to have production connections. (Also there's a lot of conjecture there, whether it's even worth saying "Donna Noble had a toy of a character on her desk" is unclear) Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 01:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Interesting! I did watch the show as a kid, but had no idea of its Muppet-connections. this reddit post reply describes him as a muppet (lowercase 'm') as opposed to a Muppet. Seems a bit of a fannish thing though. The show is covered on the Muppet wiki though, and is owned by The Muppet Studio, which formed after the show's cancellation. I would say: "not a Muppet". But really, the only place Donna's toy should get a mention is on the toy's page itself. Danochy ☎ 06:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)