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* When Rose is attacked by the plastic arm, the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to cancel the signal. While he is doing this, Jackie is drying her hair in the other room. In ''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' the Doctor says that hair dryers interfere with his sonic screwdriver, so shouldn't he be unable to use it against the arm?
::The Doctor said ''some'' hair dryers. He also had to buzz it a few times for it to work.


* When Rose is attacked by the plastic arm, the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to cancel the signal. While he is doing this, Jackie is drying her hair in the other room. Firstly, wouldn't she hear Rose crashing through the table? Secondly, in ''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' the Doctor says that hairdryers interfere with his sonic screwdriver. So, shouldn't he be unable to use it against the arm?
*Wouldn't Jackie hear Rose crashing through the table?
::The Doctor said ''some'' hairdryers he also had to buzz it a few times for it to work. Additionally Jackie switches on the hairdryer before Rose falls through the table, she may not have heard anything.
::Jackie was drying her hair at the time, so would most probably not have heard her.


*If the Doctor is newly-regenerated, then how are there photos of him on the day before the Titanic set sail, at the assassination of John F. Kennedy and when Krakatoa erupted without Rose?
*How can there be photos of the Doctor, on the day before the Titanic set sail, at the assassination of John F. Kennedy and when Krakatoa erupted, without Rose?
::The Doctor is a time traveller, and we don't know if he technically newly regenerated, the Doctor has a big life he might not have time to look at himself.
::We don't know that the Doctor was newly-regenerated. His surprise at his looks could be explained by the fact he has a busy life and may not have had time, or bothered, to look in a mirror.
::We don't know that he is newly-regenerated at this point. Plus, being a time traveller, those events may not have happened in his time stream until after he met Rose.
::Those events could have happened after he saw Rose in her flat, but before he invited her to join him.


*When the Auton's arm attacks Rose, we see Jackie in her bedroom using the hairdryer, when her hair is clearly already dry.
*When the Auton's arm attacks Rose, we see Jackie in her bedroom using the hairdryer, when her hair is clearly already dry.
::Many people use hair dryers to style their hair after it is dry.


* When Mickey closes the wheelie bin lid, he then finds the plastic stuck to his hands, he lifts his hands up and the plastic stretches like tar. If you look closely when he lifts his hands up for the first time, you'll see that a shadow of one of his hands is cast clearly on his shirt, yet there is no shadow of the strands of plastic stuck to his fingers.
*When Mickey closes the wheelie bin lid, he then finds the plastic stuck to his hands, he lifts his hands up and the plastic stretches like tar. If you look closely when he lifts his hands up for the first time, you'll see that a shadow of one of his hands is cast clearly on his shirt, yet there is no shadow of the strands of plastic stuck to his fingers.
::That is a production error, not a continuity error.
::The plastic is animated perhaps it does not cast a shadow.


:The plastic is animated perhaps it does not cast a shadow.
*When the three bride Autons attack Jackie, and they open their hands one at a time, it is clear that when the second Auton opens its hand, all three are already open. After it cuts to Rose, and back to Jackie again, the third one opens, even though we just saw it already open.
 
::That is a production error, not a continuity error.
:::That's a technical error, not a continuity error. It was probably just an oversight by the production team.
 
* When the three bride Autons attack Jackie, and they open their hands one at a time, it is clear that when the second Auton opens its hand, all three are already open. After it cuts to Rose, and back to Jackie again, the third one opens (even though we just saw it already open).
::Perhaps it closed, then opened again, or it could be a repeat of the same moment, just focusing in on the hand.
::Perhaps it closed, then opened again, or it could be a repeat of the same moment, just focusing in on the hand.


* When Mickey opens the lid to the rubbish bin and his hands are stuck to it, when he starts to stretch out the plastic and turn around, the strands switch hands instead of crossing.
*When Mickey opens the lid to the rubbish bin and his hands are stuck to it, when he starts to stretch out the plastic and turn around, the strands switch hands instead of crossing.
::Perhaps the plastic has the ability to do that.


* The Doctor clearly says everything plastic shall come to life. However, during the Auton invasion, you can see heaps of plastic items that stays dormant. In fact, it's only the Shop Window Dummies that come to life. You can see shopping bags, chairs, bins that don't come to life at all.
*The Doctor clearly says everything plastic shall come to life. However, during the Auton invasion, you can see heaps of plastic items that stays dormant. In fact, it's only the Shop Window Dummies that come to life. You can see shopping bags, chairs, bins that don't come to life at all.
::He means the plastic, that is controlled by the Nestene, why would the Nestene make plastic bag's come to life when you can have a whole army of shop dummies for effect.
::He means the plastic, that is controlled by the Nestene, why would the Nestene make plastic bag's come to life when you can have a whole army of shop dummies for effect.


* How come the Autons have guns in their hands anyway? Normal shop window dummies don't.
*Why do the Autons have guns in their hands anyway? Normal shop window dummies don't.
::They must've been specially made and planted in shop windows, presumably by the Nestene Consciousness.
::They must've been specially made and planted in shop windows, presumably by the Nestene Consciousness.


*Why couldn't Rose tell Mickey was an Auton? Anyone would have noticed the weird plastic sheen to his skin and hair.
*Why couldn't Rose tell Mickey was an Auton? Anyone would have noticed the weird plastic sheen to his skin and hair.
::Rose was preoccupied thinking about the Doctor. Having almost been killed and then meeting a mysterious man, it is likely that she would not be thinking properly.

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  • When Rose is attacked by the plastic arm, the Doctor uses his sonic screwdriver to cancel the signal. While he is doing this, Jackie is drying her hair in the other room. In Forest of the Dead the Doctor says that hair dryers interfere with his sonic screwdriver, so shouldn't he be unable to use it against the arm?
The Doctor said some hair dryers. He also had to buzz it a few times for it to work.
  • Wouldn't Jackie hear Rose crashing through the table?
Jackie was drying her hair at the time, so would most probably not have heard her.
  • How can there be photos of the Doctor, on the day before the Titanic set sail, at the assassination of John F. Kennedy and when Krakatoa erupted, without Rose?
We don't know that the Doctor was newly-regenerated. His surprise at his looks could be explained by the fact he has a busy life and may not have had time, or bothered, to look in a mirror.
Those events could have happened after he saw Rose in her flat, but before he invited her to join him.
  • When the Auton's arm attacks Rose, we see Jackie in her bedroom using the hairdryer, when her hair is clearly already dry.
Many people use hair dryers to style their hair after it is dry.
  • When Mickey closes the wheelie bin lid, he then finds the plastic stuck to his hands, he lifts his hands up and the plastic stretches like tar. If you look closely when he lifts his hands up for the first time, you'll see that a shadow of one of his hands is cast clearly on his shirt, yet there is no shadow of the strands of plastic stuck to his fingers.
That is a production error, not a continuity error.
The plastic is animated perhaps it does not cast a shadow.
  • When the three bride Autons attack Jackie, and they open their hands one at a time, it is clear that when the second Auton opens its hand, all three are already open. After it cuts to Rose, and back to Jackie again, the third one opens, even though we just saw it already open.
That is a production error, not a continuity error.
Perhaps it closed, then opened again, or it could be a repeat of the same moment, just focusing in on the hand.
  • When Mickey opens the lid to the rubbish bin and his hands are stuck to it, when he starts to stretch out the plastic and turn around, the strands switch hands instead of crossing.
Perhaps the plastic has the ability to do that.
  • The Doctor clearly says everything plastic shall come to life. However, during the Auton invasion, you can see heaps of plastic items that stays dormant. In fact, it's only the Shop Window Dummies that come to life. You can see shopping bags, chairs, bins that don't come to life at all.
He means the plastic, that is controlled by the Nestene, why would the Nestene make plastic bag's come to life when you can have a whole army of shop dummies for effect.
  • Why do the Autons have guns in their hands anyway? Normal shop window dummies don't.
They must've been specially made and planted in shop windows, presumably by the Nestene Consciousness.
  • Why couldn't Rose tell Mickey was an Auton? Anyone would have noticed the weird plastic sheen to his skin and hair.
Rose was preoccupied thinking about the Doctor. Having almost been killed and then meeting a mysterious man, it is likely that she would not be thinking properly.