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[[User:Blopington]] mentioned the similarity between "A Good Man Goes to War," and the title of a hymn, "The Son of God Goes Forth to War." | [[User:Blopington]] mentioned the similarity between "A Good Man Goes to War," and the title of a hymn, "The Son of God Goes Forth to War." See that thread (which is largely unrelated to this one... OR IS IT!!!) [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Howling:Water_References here]. | ||
Now that I read the lyrics again, I'm struck by some lines that seem to connect directly to episodes. | Now that I read the lyrics again, I'm struck by some lines that seem to connect directly to episodes. Didn't want to derail that thread with something relatively off-topic, so here goes: | ||
The Son of God goes forth to war, A kingly crown to gain;<br/> | The Son of God goes forth to war, A kingly crown to gain;<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
His blood-red banner streams afar: Who follows in His train?<br/> | His blood-red banner streams afar: Who follows in His train?<br /> | ||
--The Doctor's Wife (Amy's vision of crimson) | --The Doctor's Wife (Amy's vision of crimson) | ||
Who best can drink his cup of woe, Triumphant over pain, <br/> | Who best can drink his cup of woe, Triumphant over pain,<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
Who patient bears his cross below, He follows in His train.<br/> | Who patient bears his cross below, He follows in His train.<br /> | ||
--The Beast Below | --The Beast Below | ||
The martyr first, whose eagle eye Could pierce beyond the grave,<br/> | The martyr first, whose eagle eye Could pierce beyond the grave,<br /> | ||
--The Impossible Astronaut | --The Impossible Astronaut | ||
Who saw his Master in the sky, And called to Him to save:<br/> | Who saw his Master in the sky, And called to Him to save:<br /> | ||
--Last of the Time Lords | --Last of the Time Lords | ||
Like Him, with pardon on his tongue, In midst of mortal pain,<br/> | Like Him, with pardon on his tongue, In midst of mortal pain,<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
He prayed for them that did the wrong: Who follows in his train?<br/> | He prayed for them that did the wrong: Who follows in his train?<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
A glorious band, the chosen few On whom the Spirit came,<br/> | A glorious band, the chosen few On whom the Spirit came,<br /> | ||
--Journey's End | --Journey's End | ||
Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew, And mocked the cross and flame.<br/> | Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew, And mocked the cross and flame.<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode* | --Unknown episode* | ||
They met the tyrant's brandished steel, The lion's gory mane,<br/> | They met the tyrant's brandished steel, The lion's gory mane,<br /> | ||
--The King's Demon?!? | --The King's Demon?!? | ||
They bowed their necks, the death to feel: Who follows in their train?<br/> | They bowed their necks, the death to feel: Who follows in their train?<br /> | ||
--The Stolen Earth | --The Stolen Earth | ||
A noble army, men and boys, The matron and the maid,<br/> | A noble army, men and boys, The matron and the maid,<br /> | ||
--A Good Man Goes to War (?) | --A Good Man Goes to War (?) | ||
Around the Savior's throne rejoice, In robes of light arrayed.<br/> | Around the Savior's throne rejoice, In robes of light arrayed.<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
They climbed by strength divine from heaven, Through peril, toil, and pain:<br/> | They climbed by strength divine from heaven, Through peril, toil, and pain:<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode** | --Unknown episode** | ||
O God, to us may grace be given To follow in their train.<br/> | O God, to us may grace be given To follow in their train.<br /> | ||
--Unknown episode | --Unknown episode | ||
A couple of the un-starred "unknowns" seem to me like generalities; typical sentiments a companion or group of companions might say at a difficult time. | A couple of the un-starred "unknowns" seem to me like generalities; typical sentiments a companion or group of companions might say at a difficult time. The first one I starred, about Twelve valiant saints, could be the Doctor's first twelve regenerations. The second I starred, about climing by strength divine from heaven, sounds potentially like a re-emergence of Gallifrey. | ||
Anyway... it struck me, so I had to put it out there. | Anyway... it struck me, so I had to put it out there. Thoughts? | ||
PS: A couple faults with my format; I took the rhythm pattern strictly rather than using punctuation or a "whatever works" approach; some of the episodes were pre-Moff, which seems a touch unlikely from some POVs; and, I'm human... always seeing patterns in things that aren't there. [[User:Agonaga|Agonaga]] 19:23, June 2, 2011 (UTC) | PS: A couple faults with my format; I took the rhythm pattern strictly rather than using punctuation or a "whatever works" approach; some of the episodes were pre-Moff, which seems a touch unlikely from some POVs; and, I'm human... always seeing patterns in things that aren't there. [[User:Agonaga|Agonaga]] 19:23, June 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
PPS: The etymology of the word "good" is just an elongated form of the word God, see [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=good], as in Goodbye being a shortened form of "God by ye." [[User:Agonaga|Agonaga]] 19:30, June 2, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 19:30, 2 June 2011
User:Blopington mentioned the similarity between "A Good Man Goes to War," and the title of a hymn, "The Son of God Goes Forth to War." See that thread (which is largely unrelated to this one... OR IS IT!!!) here.
Now that I read the lyrics again, I'm struck by some lines that seem to connect directly to episodes. Didn't want to derail that thread with something relatively off-topic, so here goes:
The Son of God goes forth to war, A kingly crown to gain;
--Unknown episode
His blood-red banner streams afar: Who follows in His train?
--The Doctor's Wife (Amy's vision of crimson)
Who best can drink his cup of woe, Triumphant over pain,
--Unknown episode
Who patient bears his cross below, He follows in His train.
--The Beast Below
The martyr first, whose eagle eye Could pierce beyond the grave,
--The Impossible Astronaut
Who saw his Master in the sky, And called to Him to save:
--Last of the Time Lords
Like Him, with pardon on his tongue, In midst of mortal pain,
--Unknown episode
He prayed for them that did the wrong: Who follows in his train?
--Unknown episode
A glorious band, the chosen few On whom the Spirit came,
--Journey's End
Twelve valiant saints, their hope they knew, And mocked the cross and flame.
--Unknown episode*
They met the tyrant's brandished steel, The lion's gory mane,
--The King's Demon?!?
They bowed their necks, the death to feel: Who follows in their train?
--The Stolen Earth
A noble army, men and boys, The matron and the maid,
--A Good Man Goes to War (?)
Around the Savior's throne rejoice, In robes of light arrayed.
--Unknown episode
They climbed by strength divine from heaven, Through peril, toil, and pain:
--Unknown episode**
O God, to us may grace be given To follow in their train.
--Unknown episode
A couple of the un-starred "unknowns" seem to me like generalities; typical sentiments a companion or group of companions might say at a difficult time. The first one I starred, about Twelve valiant saints, could be the Doctor's first twelve regenerations. The second I starred, about climing by strength divine from heaven, sounds potentially like a re-emergence of Gallifrey.
Anyway... it struck me, so I had to put it out there. Thoughts?
PS: A couple faults with my format; I took the rhythm pattern strictly rather than using punctuation or a "whatever works" approach; some of the episodes were pre-Moff, which seems a touch unlikely from some POVs; and, I'm human... always seeing patterns in things that aren't there. Agonaga 19:23, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
PPS: The etymology of the word "good" is just an elongated form of the word God, see [1], as in Goodbye being a shortened form of "God by ye." Agonaga 19:30, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
