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::Er, yes we do know that he's referring to ''The Big Bang'', because he says "I can't believe River blew you up." And he's missed it since then. So he's just gotten it back for the first time since then. He wears it in ''A Christmas Carol'', so this is before ''A Christmas Carol''. Putting it anywhere else requires jumping through mental hoops, which is categorically unnecessary. Just put it where it obviously belongs. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 13:31, October 6, 2011 (UTC) | ::Er, yes we do know that he's referring to ''The Big Bang'', because he says "I can't believe River blew you up." And he's missed it since then. So he's just gotten it back for the first time since then. He wears it in ''A Christmas Carol'', so this is before ''A Christmas Carol''. Putting it anywhere else requires jumping through mental hoops, which is categorically unnecessary. Just put it where it obviously belongs. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 13:31, October 6, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::You are correct in that we know it is after the fez was blown up in ''The Big Bang,'' but we do not know it was ''just'' after. It's a completely indeterminate point after ''The Big Bang,'' and anything at all beyond that is speculation and has no place on this wiki per [[Tardis:Canon policy]]. We can't add our own information to the story just to make it fit our wiki layout conventions, we can only report on what was explicitly stated on-screen; in this case, "I can't believe River blew you up" is all we have to report on. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 04:20, October 9, 2011 (UTC) | :::You are correct in that we know it is after the fez was blown up in ''The Big Bang,'' but we do not know it was ''just'' after. It's a completely indeterminate point after ''The Big Bang,'' and anything at all beyond that is speculation and has no place on this wiki per [[Tardis:Canon policy]]. We can't add our own information to the story just to make it fit our wiki layout conventions, we can only report on what was explicitly stated on-screen; in this case, "I can't believe River blew you up" is all we have to report on. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 04:20, October 9, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::That's an onscreen statement that he hasn't seen it since then, placing it explicitly before ''A Christmas Carol''. To put it after would presume an offscreen mishap with the fez; there is no evidence for that and it would be just as unencyclopedic as saying that Amy and Rory in ''Closing Time'' could be from before ''The Impossible Astronaut'' and Amy was assaulted by memory-eating aliens who made her forget the word "petrichor". Based on what's actually been seen and heard onscreen, the placement is | ::::That's an onscreen statement that he hasn't seen it since then, placing it explicitly before ''A Christmas Carol''. To put it after would presume an offscreen mishap with the fez; there is no evidence for that and it would be just as unencyclopedic as saying that Amy and Rory in ''Closing Time'' could be from before ''The Impossible Astronaut'' and Amy was assaulted by memory-eating aliens who made her forget the word "petrichor". Based on what's actually been seen and heard onscreen, the placement is clear. To put this episode before ''A Christmas Carol'' is to not speculate; to put it after or to say we can't tell is to speculate. The assumption of offscreen events is a major flaw in the argument you stated. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 14:29, October 9, 2011 (UTC) | ||