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'''Dårlig Ulv-Stranden''' (Norwegian for "[[Bad Wolf meme|Bad Wolf]] Bay" ) was a bay 50 miles outside [[Bergen]] in [[Norway]] on the alternate Earth dubbed "[[Pete's World]]". | |||
After being transported to the [[Pete's World|alternate Earth]], this is the last place where [[Rose Tyler|Rose]] had any contact with the [[Tenth Doctor]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[Doomsday]]''). | After being transported to the [[Pete's World|alternate Earth]], this is the last place where [[Rose Tyler|Rose]] had any contact with the [[Tenth Doctor]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[Doomsday]]''). | ||
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* To date, only the Dårlig Ulv-Stranden located on Pete's World has ever been seen or referenced; whether it also exists in the main Earth of the [[Doctor Who universe|''Doctor Who'' universe]] is unclear. According to Google Maps there is no Dårlig Ulv Stranden in Norway. | * To date, only the Dårlig Ulv-Stranden located on Pete's World has ever been seen or referenced; whether it also exists in the main Earth of the [[Doctor Who universe|''Doctor Who'' universe]] is unclear. According to Google Maps there is no Dårlig Ulv Stranden in Norway. | ||
* The beach was filmed in [[wikipedia:Southerndown|Southerndown]] beach, in South [[Wales]], which was later used as the surface of [[Alfava Metraxis]] in ''[[The Time of Angels]]''/''[[Flesh and Stone]]''. | * The beach was filmed in [[wikipedia:Southerndown|Southerndown]] beach, in South [[Wales]], which was later used as the surface of [[Alfava Metraxis]] in ''[[The Time of Angels]]''/''[[Flesh and Stone]]''. | ||
* Despite | === Something afoot in Norway === | ||
* In fact, the actual Norwegian equivalent to "bad wolf" is "slem ulv"; the adjective "slem" can be translated roughly as "naughty" or "bad (in behavior)", whereas the adjective "dårlig" can be translated as "poor in quality" or "feeling bad; as in feeling sick". The phrase "Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf?" is translated into Norwegian as: "Hvem er redd for den store, stygge ulven?" - thus: "Bad Wolf Bay" in Norwegian would be "Styggulvstrand" (since Norwegian toponyms rarely use the definite article). This, however, is a very old-fashioned use of the word "stygg", so the best translation would be more like "Slemulvstrand". "Dårlig Ulv Stranden" was clearly chosen for the pun on "Dalek". The choice of 'stranden' may also be a pun on the fact that Rose was stranded. | Norwegian speakers have noted several real world difficulties with the name. | ||
* Despite actor pronunciation in the episodes featured, it is actually pronounced "''Dorli Ulv-Stranden''". | |||
* In fact, the actual Norwegian equivalent to "bad wolf" is "slem ulv"; the adjective "slem" can be translated roughly as "naughty" or "bad (in behavior)", whereas the adjective "dårlig" can be translated as "poor in quality" or "feeling bad; as in feeling sick". The phrase "Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf?" is translated into Norwegian as: "Hvem er redd for den store, stygge ulven?" - thus: "Bad Wolf Bay" in Norwegian would be "Styggulvstrand" (since Norwegian toponyms rarely use the definite article). This, however, is a very old-fashioned use of the word "stygg", so the best translation would be more like "Slemulvstrand". "Dårlig Ulv Stranden" was clearly chosen for the pun on "Dalek". The choice of 'stranden' may also be a pun on the fact that Rose was stranded. | |||
* Strand actually means "beach" or "seacoast" not "bay". The Norwegian (bokmål) word for bay is "vik". | * Strand actually means "beach" or "seacoast" not "bay". The Norwegian (bokmål) word for bay is "vik". | ||
* Another reason for the choice of using "Dårlig", is that "bad" roughly translates to the same word. "The food has gone bad" translates to "Maten er blitt dårlig", which defends the choice. The pronunciation in the show also resembles "Dalek" (Daleg), which could have some pun intent to it. | * Another reason for the choice of using "Dårlig", is that "bad" roughly translates to the same word. "The food has gone bad" translates to "Maten er blitt dårlig", which defends the choice. The pronunciation in the show also resembles "Dalek" (Daleg), which could have some pun intent to it. | ||
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Revision as of 13:55, 12 November 2011
Dårlig Ulv-Stranden (Norwegian for "Bad Wolf Bay" ) was a bay 50 miles outside Bergen in Norway on the alternate Earth dubbed "Pete's World".
After being transported to the alternate Earth, this is the last place where Rose had any contact with the Tenth Doctor. (DW: Doomsday).
After the War in the Medusa Cascade, the Doctor took Rose back to Bad Wolf Bay with the Meta-Crisis Doctor and Jackie. (DW: Journey's End)
Behind the scenes
- To date, only the Dårlig Ulv-Stranden located on Pete's World has ever been seen or referenced; whether it also exists in the main Earth of the Doctor Who universe is unclear. According to Google Maps there is no Dårlig Ulv Stranden in Norway.
- The beach was filmed in Southerndown beach, in South Wales, which was later used as the surface of Alfava Metraxis in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.
Something afoot in Norway
Norwegian speakers have noted several real world difficulties with the name.
- Despite actor pronunciation in the episodes featured, it is actually pronounced "Dorli Ulv-Stranden".
- In fact, the actual Norwegian equivalent to "bad wolf" is "slem ulv"; the adjective "slem" can be translated roughly as "naughty" or "bad (in behavior)", whereas the adjective "dårlig" can be translated as "poor in quality" or "feeling bad; as in feeling sick". The phrase "Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf?" is translated into Norwegian as: "Hvem er redd for den store, stygge ulven?" - thus: "Bad Wolf Bay" in Norwegian would be "Styggulvstrand" (since Norwegian toponyms rarely use the definite article). This, however, is a very old-fashioned use of the word "stygg", so the best translation would be more like "Slemulvstrand". "Dårlig Ulv Stranden" was clearly chosen for the pun on "Dalek". The choice of 'stranden' may also be a pun on the fact that Rose was stranded.
- Strand actually means "beach" or "seacoast" not "bay". The Norwegian (bokmål) word for bay is "vik".
- Another reason for the choice of using "Dårlig", is that "bad" roughly translates to the same word. "The food has gone bad" translates to "Maten er blitt dårlig", which defends the choice. The pronunciation in the show also resembles "Dalek" (Daleg), which could have some pun intent to it.