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:: Thanks so much! A case could be made that references like the [[Death and the Daleks]] one happened before Brax's time-tweaks '''but''' that fact that she still remembers the Doctor in [[The Wake]], which is for now the end of the EvilBrax arc, is absolute proof that Benny's time with the Doctor is still intact. --[[User:Richard Jones|Richard Jones]] 21:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks so much! A case could be made that references like the [[Death and the Daleks]] one happened before Brax's time-tweaks '''but''' that fact that she still remembers the Doctor in [[The Wake]], which is for now the end of the EvilBrax arc, is absolute proof that Benny's time with the Doctor is still intact. --[[User:Richard Jones|Richard Jones]] 21:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
'''Benny's age when her dad disappeared / when her mother died'''
Impossible to pin down, is my thesis.  Benny's always maintained that Isaac disappeared when she was 7.  We know that Claire was alive at the time (''[[The Evacuation of Bernice Summerfield Considered as a Short Film by Terry Gilliam|The Evacuation of...]]'', in which Isaac has been gone for not more than six months, and Claire has just died; ''[[Return of the Living Dad]]'', in which Isaac is unaware of Claire's fate).  Benny has sometimes said that she was '''orphaned''' at seven (in ''[[Return of the Living Dad]]'' and ''[[Love and War]]''), but in ''[[The Extinction Event]]'' she states that she was eight when her mother died.
I think that the best reconciliation is that Claire Summerfield's death ocurred after Benny's eighth birthday, but not long afterwards.  From grown-up Benny's point of view, there's not much difference between being (say) 7.9 years old versus being (say) 8.0 years old; Benny may not have really started thinking of herself as an eight-year-old yet.
[[User:Nightsky|Nightsky]] 20:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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Where's this idea...

This section alludes to a timeline in which Bernice Summerfield travelled with the Doctor. Due to the intervention of Irving Braxiatel, who she met later, this timeline may no longer exist.

...from?

Bernice alludes explictly to her time with the Doctor in her most recent novella collection and both of her two most recent audios refer frankly to the events of that time.

Whatever changes have been made to Benny's life, this doesn't seem to be one of them. --Richard Jones 20:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

No idea (have removed it anyways). She also refers to the Doctor by name and Heaven in Death and the Daleks (and there's plenty of references back and forth throughout all the novels and audios). --Tangerineduel 06:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much! A case could be made that references like the Death and the Daleks one happened before Brax's time-tweaks but that fact that she still remembers the Doctor in The Wake, which is for now the end of the EvilBrax arc, is absolute proof that Benny's time with the Doctor is still intact. --Richard Jones 21:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Benny's age when her dad disappeared / when her mother died Impossible to pin down, is my thesis. Benny's always maintained that Isaac disappeared when she was 7. We know that Claire was alive at the time (The Evacuation of..., in which Isaac has been gone for not more than six months, and Claire has just died; Return of the Living Dad, in which Isaac is unaware of Claire's fate). Benny has sometimes said that she was orphaned at seven (in Return of the Living Dad and Love and War), but in The Extinction Event she states that she was eight when her mother died.

I think that the best reconciliation is that Claire Summerfield's death ocurred after Benny's eighth birthday, but not long afterwards. From grown-up Benny's point of view, there's not much difference between being (say) 7.9 years old versus being (say) 8.0 years old; Benny may not have really started thinking of herself as an eight-year-old yet. Nightsky 20:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)