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 :I tend to agree that it should be ''Death Is the Only Answer'', but of course the all-caps style of the titles don't help us.  Anyone got a good reason for '''not''' capitalising the ''is''?   Doug86 has given the reason "because verbs aren't capitalised" in his reversion rationale, but I'm not sure that reason holds any water, or it would be ''gone with the Wind'', ''The Way We were'', ''[[fear Her]]'', ''[[blink]]'', ''[[turn Left]]'', ''The Pandorica opens'', or — most obviously — ''let's kill Hitler''.
-:Anyone know of any ''better'' reason why the "is" here shouldn't be capped? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">06:11: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
+:Anyone know of any ''better'' reason why the "is" here shouldn't be capped? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}06:11: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
-::For the record, I '''disapprove''' of the unilateral action to move this page back to ''Death Is the Only Answer'' — even though that's the form I personally prefer.  The matter was under discussion here, and I would have liked to have heard from the other side before reverting.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">23:32: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
+::For the record, I '''disapprove''' of the unilateral action to move this page back to ''Death Is the Only Answer'' — even though that's the form I personally prefer.  The matter was under discussion here, and I would have liked to have heard from the other side before reverting.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}23:32: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
 :::Actually, I only put this item in ''after'' reverting, and only to show the reason that capitalization is correct, should anyone wonder. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 13:38, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
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 My argument for episode placement is as follows, using only the episode itself as a source: the Doctor has, by his own explicit words, only just gotten his fez back for the first time after its destruction. He wears the fez in ''A Christmas Carol'', so the episode takes place before then. This is straightforward logic and not guesswork. If there are no responses in a week, I will go ahead and correct the timeline (one can't wait forever). -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 22:02, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
-:I agree with [[user:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] above.  You proceed from a very shaky logical foundation, [[user:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]].  We don't know that the Doctor's fez '''only''' gets destroyed in ''The Big Bang''.  Since the Doctor at the end of series 6 is 200+ years older than the one in ''The Big Bang'', there's '''tons''' of time for him to have gotten a new fez.  More to the point, this could be his '''old''' [[Eighth Doctor]] fez.  We have '''zero''' temporal context in this sketch, other than to say "sometime in his eleventh body".  It's frankly best to put down '''time placement uncertain''' than any other combination of words. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">23:40: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
+:I agree with [[user:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] above.  You proceed from a very shaky logical foundation, [[user:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]].  We don't know that the Doctor's fez '''only''' gets destroyed in ''The Big Bang''.  Since the Doctor at the end of series 6 is 200+ years older than the one in ''The Big Bang'', there's '''tons''' of time for him to have gotten a new fez.  More to the point, this could be his '''old''' [[Eighth Doctor]] fez.  We have '''zero''' temporal context in this sketch, other than to say "sometime in his eleventh body".  It's frankly best to put down '''time placement uncertain''' than any other combination of words. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}23:40: Wed&nbsp;05 Oct 2011&nbsp;</span>
 ::Er, yes we do know that he's referring to ''The Big Bang'', because he says "I can't believe River blew you up." And he's missed it since then. So he's just gotten it back for the first time since then. He wears it in ''A Christmas Carol'', so this is before ''A Christmas Carol''. Putting it anywhere else requires jumping through mental hoops, which is categorically unnecessary. Just put it where it obviously belongs. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] <sup>[[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|talk to me]]</sup> 13:31, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 :::You are correct in that we know it is after the fez was blown up in ''The Big Bang,'' but we do not know it was ''just'' after.  It's a completely indeterminate point after ''The Big Bang,'' and anything at all beyond that is speculation and has no place on this wiki per [[Tardis:Canon policy]].  We can't add our own information to the story just to make it fit our wiki layout conventions, we can only report on what was explicitly stated on-screen; in this case, "I can't believe River blew you up" is all we have to report on. &mdash; [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|&#916;]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|&#8711;]]''' - 04:20, October 9, 2011 (UTC)