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::Yes, there was suppossed to be a "not" there. I suck at proofreading.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] [[User talk:Icecreamdif|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:03, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, there was suppossed to be a "not" there. I suck at proofreading.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] [[User talk:Icecreamdif|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:03, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
:::Maybe I'm just oversensitive to this because I put so much effort into defending Moffat's plan to other fans, and it's disheartening to see it amount to nothing…
:::(Also, Icecreamdif, you're right about Night Terrors. And that raises the point that Amy and Rory weren't ahead at all until God Complex; a bit until a season after The Big Bang, it was a bit under a year later for them and for the main Earth timeline, although probably much more for the Doctor given what we saw in the DVD extras. But if that means anything, it belongs in another thread…) --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.233|70.36.140.233]]<sup>[[User talk:70.36.140.233#top|talk to me]]</sup> 02:10, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

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Moffat told us repeatedly that the whole reason for the cracks/reboot plot was so he could remove aliens from public consciousness, so people in the 2011 Whoniverse would react to everything exactly the same way as people in the 2011 real world.

That all made sense at the time. But looking back, Amy didn't have a single adventure set in present day Earth since her first episode. When she finally did, after 2-1/2 years for us and 10 for her, the public reactions we saw were played as an intentional homage to the RTD era; The Power of Three would have gone down exactly the same way in, say, series 3. (Not to mention that it isn't even our present day, it's probably years in the future…) The Doctor did have two present-day adventures without her, but both of those were small stories where nobody had to deal with aliens but Craig and his family, so there was no payoff there either.

So, what was the point of resetting history? Was he spending 2-1/2 years setting up for next week, so Amy's final story can play out differently from an RTD finale? Is the fact that Amy's home time has always been a safe zone a plot point? Is the payoff even farther ahead, with the new companion? Or is it just that, for whatever reasons, Moffat never ended up writing a present-day story, so it all turned out to be for nothing? --70.36.140.233talk to me 17:23, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

I reckon it was just a way of allowing Moffat to start from scratch. 94.72.194.203talk to me 20:08, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Night Terrors was also in the present day, but that doesn't really change any of your point. Moffat probably just wanted the option of setting an episode in the present day without people being used to alien invasions, and just never took advantage of it. I'm sure that it didn't help that right after his crack arc, RTD introduced the most impossible to notice ever event in human history in Torchwood.Icecreamdif 20:16, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Icecreamdif, "the most impossible to notice ever event in human history": Is there a "not" missing from that? It would make sense as "the most impossible not to notice ever event in human history" but it makes none as it stands. --2.101.48.190talk to me 22:52, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think Icecreamdif is right. Moffat gave himself a way to start over from scratch, but never used it. Maybe he could have used it last week, but by this point a "intentional homage to the RTD era" was more interesting. Still you have to wonder what kind of stories he was planning to do that he never got around to.

Yes, there was suppossed to be a "not" there. I suck at proofreading.Icecreamdif 00:03, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Maybe I'm just oversensitive to this because I put so much effort into defending Moffat's plan to other fans, and it's disheartening to see it amount to nothing…
(Also, Icecreamdif, you're right about Night Terrors. And that raises the point that Amy and Rory weren't ahead at all until God Complex; a bit until a season after The Big Bang, it was a bit under a year later for them and for the main Earth timeline, although probably much more for the Doctor given what we saw in the DVD extras. But if that means anything, it belongs in another thread…) --70.36.140.233talk to me 02:10, September 26, 2012 (UTC)