Talk:The Ultimate Foe (TV story)

Glitz

Anyone else think that, effectively, Glitz is a companion in this story? I mean, I know he's not a companion in any official documentation, and it'll probably be instantly shot down, but he seems to act in every way like a companion here. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 08:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Not at this stage i would call him a companion in Dragonfire if anywhere Dark Lord Xander 08:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I certainly wouldn't call him a companion for Dragonfire. But for this story he does act like the 'companion' when they're rollicking around in the Matrix, he asks the audience identification questions and does all those sorts of things within his character. But in terms of how much he's a companion 'companion', it's sort of the same as Benton in any of the Pertwee stories or Jackie in any of the new series episodes, those two and Glitz, they're present, they interact and maybe help the Doctor but they're not 'companions' in the real sense. --Tangerineduel 12:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you can really call someone a companion until they have traveled with the doctor in the Tardis and although Benton and the Brig did in the three doctors to my knowladge i don't think glitz did although it's been about four months since i watched trial of a time lord Dark Lord Xander 14:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

What does this mean?

I keep staring at this sentence from the discontinuity section, and I have absolutely no clue what it means:

• What the Master said about the Valeyard giving him the remainder of his regenerations to him contradicts the Master's explanation of his regeneration in The Sound of Drums and mostly The Five Doctors.

How does it contradict, well, anything? I mean the character of the Valeyard is just such a bad idea in the first place, it's hard to take him seriously. But if I put on my most serious face, I still can't see it. The Valeyard's statement is at least consisted with the television movie. That's what the Master was trying to do there, right? I mean, that didn't make any sense either, but it's consistent, if nothing else. Ya think the original editor was saying the Valeyard should have approached the High Council for a whole new set of regenerations, instead of trying to get the Doctor's unused ones? IF so, I don't see the point of that. The Valeyard wasn't just trying to survive, which was the Master's deal. He was trying to substantially alter history. Personally, I never saw the logic of going back only to the Sixth Doctor for this trial. It really should have been a First Doctor story, according to the (apparent) logic of the Valeyard. WHy take half when you can take 'em all? I dunno. What does everyone else think the point of the statement is? CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 05:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)