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:Unfortunately you've misunderstood Revan's comment about canon. The idea is not that the wiki doesn't care about canon, it's that all stories (under certain guidelines) count, and therefore the name Arkytior is accepted in the article. For a better description than I could give, check out [[Tardis:Canon policy]], [[Tardis:Valid sources]], and [[Tardis:Neutral point of view]] (especially the in-universe section), all of which should be helpful. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
:Unfortunately you've misunderstood Revan's comment about canon. The idea is not that the wiki doesn't care about canon, it's that all stories (under certain guidelines) count, and therefore the name Arkytior is accepted in the article. For a better description than I could give, check out [[Tardis:Canon policy]], [[Tardis:Valid sources]], and [[Tardis:Neutral point of view]] (especially the in-universe section), all of which should be helpful. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
::I appreciate the info.  This place has changed.  I'll keep all that in mind in the future.  [[User:Whosethebestwho|Whosethebestwho]] [[User talk:Whosethebestwho|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
::I appreciate the info.  This place has changed.  I'll keep all that in mind in the future.  [[User:Whosethebestwho|Whosethebestwho]] [[User talk:Whosethebestwho|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
:::It's not really a change. I've been here on and off since very close to the wiki's inception, and we've always been inclusive of officially licensed ''Doctor Who'' in all media. Things have become a bit more formalized lately, but the principles have always been the same here. TV, novels, audios, comics, short stories: it all "counts", or nearly all. (A few things are excluded, by discussion-based consensus.) But we try to treat it all the same. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:24, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

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Relationship to Jenny

This article states that Jenny must be Susan's aunt. It forgets the possibility that Jenny is Susan's mother. 96.45.196.227 20:45, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

But then wouldn't the Doctor have known about Jenny beforehand? If I remembered the episode clearly, he was fairly surprised about Jenny.98.220.223.197 14:10, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Well, of course, strictly, unless Jenny is actually Susan's mother, she would only be Susan's half-aunt. Best for the article to say that the relationship between Jenny and Susan was simply unknown. CzechOut | 15:22, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Uh, at what point in Doctor's Daughter is it ever even implied that Jenny is Susan's mother? Are we getting fanon mixed up with canon again? All we know is Jenny is the Doctor's offspring. Ergo that makes her Susan's aunt by any legal definition. 68.146.81.123 03:11, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
There's really no such thing as a "half-aunt". I have a half-brother and a half-sister, and to all of their kids I'm simply their aunt. The three of us share a parent, that's as far as it needs to go. wannablessedbe talk to me 11:19, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Note at top of the page

As the canon policy has been completely rewritten and its under-construction "successor" Tardis:Valid sources hasn't mentioned the pilot, what's a better way of phrasing why we don't include images of The Pilot Episode? -- Tybort (talk page) 11:10, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Larna

This links to the Larna article - but is that the same as "Lady Larna" ? -- Beardouk 21:12, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Good point. Larna needs editing in light of Forum:Is The Infinity Doctors canon? anyway. I'll try to take care of that in the next day or two, and when I do I'll add a note about Susan as the "Lady Larna" in Birth of a Renegade. —Josiah Rowe 03:51, August 10, 2012 (UTC)
Upon checking Birth of a Renegade, it turns out that the name given to Susan there is "Lady Larn", not "Larna" at all. Which tidies things up a bit. —Josiah Rowe 05:17, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Arkytior?

Is the "original" name of Arkytior actually canon? I know some books have tried to give the master's name, but it is not accepted as cannon. Shouldn't this be treated the same way? I recommend removing that name as fact and only listing it as a possibility that has not been confirmed. Whosethebestwho 10:13, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

This wiki does not deal with "canon" as a concept, and all sources are treated with equal weight. Therefore to this wikia, Arktior is regarded as a possible name for Susan, along with Lady Larn. --Revan\Talk 12:49, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously??? When did that change? I've been away a while. You all really don't care about canon here? So I can publish a Doctor Who book, make any wild claims and it will be treated as gospel here? That doesn't seem right. Whosethebestwho 02:00, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately you've misunderstood Revan's comment about canon. The idea is not that the wiki doesn't care about canon, it's that all stories (under certain guidelines) count, and therefore the name Arkytior is accepted in the article. For a better description than I could give, check out Tardis:Canon policy, Tardis:Valid sources, and Tardis:Neutral point of view (especially the in-universe section), all of which should be helpful. Shambala108 02:20, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate the info. This place has changed. I'll keep all that in mind in the future. Whosethebestwho 05:10, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
It's not really a change. I've been here on and off since very close to the wiki's inception, and we've always been inclusive of officially licensed Doctor Who in all media. Things have become a bit more formalized lately, but the principles have always been the same here. TV, novels, audios, comics, short stories: it all "counts", or nearly all. (A few things are excluded, by discussion-based consensus.) But we try to treat it all the same. —Josiah Rowe 05:24, January 22, 2013 (UTC)