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When Vastra says "if our stratagem should succeed", is that a reference to [[The Sontaran Stratagem]] or not? | When Vastra says "if our stratagem should succeed", is that a reference to [[The Sontaran Stratagem]] or not? | ||
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== Unintended Reference == | |||
There is an odd coincidence in this episode that feels like an unintended reference. The Victorian era control console of Mrs Gillyflower's looks much like a Babbage Analytical Engine, a theoretical mechanical computer, designed but not built in 1837. One of the people who worked on the papers describing the Engine is Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace, who is often credited as the world's first computer programmer. | |||
From the description in the article, Ada was likely named after Ada Salt. But a set piece that looks like the first computer and the name of the first computer programmer seems almost too coincidental. | |||
Revision as of 03:56, 29 September 2013
Real-life cultural influences: Avengers?
Diana Rigg starred in The Avengers back in the 1960's; The Doctor and Clara infiltrating the factory bear some resemblance to Mr. Steed (complete with bowler hat) and Mrs. Peel, and Jenny's catsuit is something akin to Rigg's EmmaPeeler.
Is this a production error?
I'm not sure if this counts as a production error, but it's been bothering me since I saw the episode: the picture Artie and Angie found of Clara from the events of Hide shows the Doctor and Clara standing behind Palmer and Emma during the investigations of the Caliburn House ghost. So, ummm... who took the picture? Before they pulled Hila Tacorien out of the pocket universe, they were the only ones at the mansion. TARDIStraveler ☎ 20:40, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
Could the photo perhaps have been taken by Hila Tacorien after the investigations were completed? After all theres nothing I can see in the picture to suggest a specific time when the picture was taken.92.235.36.218talk to me 22:00, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Another oddity is that the camera is in the picture. So, not only is 'who took the picture?' a question, so also is 'what did they take the picture with?'
It's not a Doctor-lite episode
This is not a Doctor-lite episode as The Doctor appears in the majority of the episode. I thought I'd post this opinion before deleting this identification in case anyone could provide a convincing argument opposing this deletion.
Madame Vastra, Jenny and Strax are only the main focus for the first 15 minutes of a 45 minute episode. As soon as The Doctor comes on to the scene, he and Clara are the prime movers in the storyline (along with the antagonists).
Think of the scene at the end by the rocket...the main Doctor Who characters are The Doctor and Clara who are with Ada while Vastra, Jenny & Strax provide backup. They are not the main characters of the episode, taken as a whole. They are sidekicks. The end of the episode doesn't feature those three Victorian characters but Clara. The show follows what happens with her, not how Vastra, Jenny & Strax made their way back to London. 63.143.238.98talk to me 19:23, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Clara?
What actually happened to Clara in this episode? The only thing shown is the glass dome and what happened before. WolfwingandSlaveLeia ☎ 17:44, May 15, 2013 (UTC)
Stratagem reference?
When Vastra says "if our stratagem should succeed", is that a reference to The Sontaran Stratagem or not?
2.2 Updated with new information
Unintended Reference
There is an odd coincidence in this episode that feels like an unintended reference. The Victorian era control console of Mrs Gillyflower's looks much like a Babbage Analytical Engine, a theoretical mechanical computer, designed but not built in 1837. One of the people who worked on the papers describing the Engine is Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace, who is often credited as the world's first computer programmer.
From the description in the article, Ada was likely named after Ada Salt. But a set piece that looks like the first computer and the name of the first computer programmer seems almost too coincidental.
