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Shouldn't the sketch in the TARDIS deserve its own page? Morevover, why is it non canonical, in particular? [[User:HarveyWallbanger|HarveyWallbanger]] [[User talk:HarveyWallbanger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC) | Shouldn't the sketch in the TARDIS deserve its own page? Morevover, why is it non canonical, in particular? [[User:HarveyWallbanger|HarveyWallbanger]] [[User talk:HarveyWallbanger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Well, no one is saying it's non-canonical. The position of the wiki is [[T:CAN|there is no such thing as canon]]. But the sketch is an [[T:VS|invalid source]] because it could not exist without reference to the documentary. It is thus essentially non-narrative. It's rather like all those puzzles in old [[Doctor Who Annual]]s which were introduced in an apparently in-universe way. Or ''[[The Making of Doctor Who]]'', which has elements | :Well, no one is saying it's non-canonical. The position of the wiki is [[T:CAN|there is no such thing as canon]]. But the sketch is an [[T:VS|invalid source]] because it could not exist without reference to the documentary. It is thus essentially non-narrative. It's rather like all those puzzles in old [[Doctor Who Annual]]s which were introduced in an apparently in-universe way. Or ''[[The Making of Doctor Who]]'', which has elements supposedly written by the Doctor. Or ''[[Tales from the TARDIS (comic series)|Tales from the TARDIS]]'', a comic series in very early issues of ''[[Doctor Who Magazine]]'' which had the [[Fourth Doctor]] introducing a story, like ''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' or some old back-up comic strip from Marvel US anthological comics — none of whose stories can actually be considered to be a part of the DWU. | ||
:A more recent example of the kind of thing we've disqualified in this regard are the [[National Television Awards Sketch 2011]]. Because the "narrative" of that sketch depends on believing the Doctor was somehow involved with the non-fictional awards show itself, we obviously can't include it, because that would logically mean that everyone who was in that awards show was a part of the DWU. In the same way, we'd have to believe that every single interviewer, Tovey's narration, and '''the actors who played DWU characters''' were themselves a part of the DWU in order to admit the sketch. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:05: Wed 20 Nov 2013</span> | :A more recent example of the kind of thing we've disqualified in this regard are the [[National Television Awards Sketch 2011]]. Because the "narrative" of that sketch depends on believing the Doctor was somehow involved with the non-fictional awards show itself, we obviously can't include it, because that would logically mean that everyone who was in that awards show was a part of the DWU. In the same way, we'd have to believe that every single interviewer, Tovey's narration, and '''the actors who played DWU characters''' were themselves a part of the DWU in order to admit the sketch. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:05: Wed 20 Nov 2013</span> | ||
::Sorry, I used the word "canon" for simplicity's sake, by now I know the general policies. The clip I watched it has quite its own dignity, a short episode about the Doctor having a temporary amnesia and remembering his life thanks to the 1200 Years Diary.. much more "in narrative" than ''[[She Said, He Said]]''. | ::Sorry, I used the word "canon" for simplicity's sake, by now I know the general policies. The clip I watched it has quite its own dignity, a short episode about the Doctor having a temporary amnesia and remembering his life thanks to the 1200 Years Diary.. much more "in narrative" than ''[[She Said, He Said]]''. [[User:HarveyWallbanger|HarveyWallbanger]] [[User talk:HarveyWallbanger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:25, November 20, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Sketch in the TARDIS
Shouldn't the sketch in the TARDIS deserve its own page? Morevover, why is it non canonical, in particular? HarveyWallbanger ☎ 22:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Well, no one is saying it's non-canonical. The position of the wiki is there is no such thing as canon. But the sketch is an invalid source because it could not exist without reference to the documentary. It is thus essentially non-narrative. It's rather like all those puzzles in old Doctor Who Annuals which were introduced in an apparently in-universe way. Or The Making of Doctor Who, which has elements supposedly written by the Doctor. Or Tales from the TARDIS, a comic series in very early issues of Doctor Who Magazine which had the Fourth Doctor introducing a story, like The War of the Worlds or some old back-up comic strip from Marvel US anthological comics — none of whose stories can actually be considered to be a part of the DWU.
- A more recent example of the kind of thing we've disqualified in this regard are the National Television Awards Sketch 2011. Because the "narrative" of that sketch depends on believing the Doctor was somehow involved with the non-fictional awards show itself, we obviously can't include it, because that would logically mean that everyone who was in that awards show was a part of the DWU. In the same way, we'd have to believe that every single interviewer, Tovey's narration, and the actors who played DWU characters were themselves a part of the DWU in order to admit the sketch.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 16:05: Wed 20 Nov 2013- Sorry, I used the word "canon" for simplicity's sake, by now I know the general policies. The clip I watched it has quite its own dignity, a short episode about the Doctor having a temporary amnesia and remembering his life thanks to the 1200 Years Diary.. much more "in narrative" than She Said, He Said. HarveyWallbanger ☎ 19:25, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
