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:Additionally, the use of numbers has made the article internally incomprehensible, since Big Finish recently retroactively gave the Eighth Doctor a new sonic. This means that what was once the "Mark VI" is now the "Mark VII", and so on.  There's absolutely no narrative reason why Big Finish ''couldn't'' give Five, Six or Seven a temporary sonic in future.  Or why they might not give Eight another ''new'' sonic at some point. So if there is no source for the numbering of these sonics, the article needs to be wholly rewritten so as to use terms that are absolute, rather than numbers which are relative.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013</span>
:Additionally, the use of numbers has made the article internally incomprehensible, since Big Finish recently retroactively gave the Eighth Doctor a new sonic. This means that what was once the "Mark VI" is now the "Mark VII", and so on.  There's absolutely no narrative reason why Big Finish ''couldn't'' give Five, Six or Seven a temporary sonic in future.  Or why they might not give Eight another ''new'' sonic at some point. So if there is no source for the numbering of these sonics, the article needs to be wholly rewritten so as to use terms that are absolute, rather than numbers which are relative.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013</span>
::Maybe we need to start a forum for changing this to your suggestions. Right now there's something of an edit war between two (or more) IP users who keep changing the "marks" back and forth. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
::Maybe we need to start a forum for changing this to your suggestions. Right now there's something of an edit war between two (or more) IP users who keep changing the "marks" back and forth. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
::In the book [[Seeing I]], The Doctor builds a new sonic screwdriver, and then names it the mark 9! This shows just how inaccurate our attempts at numbering are. I think this wiki (which considers the books canon) needs to give up attempts at numbering the sonic screwdrivers.  [[User:Holmes1963|Holmes1963]]


== Non-canon toys ==
== Non-canon toys ==

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Marks

I'm starting to see our section headers being used as "official" names for the various iterations. Other articles are now using terms like "the Mark IV sonic", as if that means something.

Is there any source for this mark business? If not, it needs to be stripped from the article, replaced by more defensible, plain English terms like, "the Second Doctor's screwdriver", "the screwdriver that the Tenth Doctor used" and the like.

We need to resist the fannish urge to number things that actually have no number in any valid source.
czechout<staff />    14:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013

Additionally, the use of numbers has made the article internally incomprehensible, since Big Finish recently retroactively gave the Eighth Doctor a new sonic. This means that what was once the "Mark VI" is now the "Mark VII", and so on. There's absolutely no narrative reason why Big Finish couldn't give Five, Six or Seven a temporary sonic in future. Or why they might not give Eight another new sonic at some point. So if there is no source for the numbering of these sonics, the article needs to be wholly rewritten so as to use terms that are absolute, rather than numbers which are relative.
czechout<staff />    15:49: Sun 14 Apr 2013
Maybe we need to start a forum for changing this to your suggestions. Right now there's something of an edit war between two (or more) IP users who keep changing the "marks" back and forth. Shambala108 16:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
In the book Seeing I, The Doctor builds a new sonic screwdriver, and then names it the mark 9! This shows just how inaccurate our attempts at numbering are. I think this wiki (which considers the books canon) needs to give up attempts at numbering the sonic screwdrivers. Holmes1963


Non-canon toys

There are a lot of new sonic screwdriver toys hitting the market lately, including some that aren't in the show (the "Build Your Own" and "Trans-temporal" sets, in particular). Should these be added in, and if so, how? --King Starscream 17:40, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

New uses

The uses from The Time of the Doctor should be added. Timppali 15:24, December 27, 2013 (UTC)