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:::::It was just the [[British Army]]. | :::::It was just the [[British Army]]. | ||
::::::Alien Threat killing loads of people. Protect yourself seems kind of obvious, no? | ::::::Alien Threat killing loads of people. Protect yourself seems kind of obvious, no? | ||
:::::[[UNIT]] would have given the order. | |||
*In Voyage of the Damned, it's stated that everyone except the Queen and Wilf have left London, so why is everybody dead when the Titanic hits the earth? | *In Voyage of the Damned, it's stated that everyone except the Queen and Wilf have left London, so why is everybody dead when the Titanic hits the earth? | ||
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*If the Trickster stops catastrophes that affect his plans wouldn't he stop the bomb | *If the Trickster stops catastrophes that affect his plans wouldn't he stop the bomb | ||
::The Reality Bomb is beyond even him. Davros explicitly says that he's going beyond the power of the gods here, and the Doctor seems to agree with him. That "dark apotheosis" is the whole point of the episode, as RTD has explained. | ::The Reality Bomb is beyond even him. Davros explicitly says that he's going beyond the power of the gods here, and the Doctor seems to agree with him. That "dark apotheosis" is the whole point of the episode, as RTD has explained. | ||
::: It is not uncommon (indeed, it's a rather popular trope) for the evil schemes of villains to backfire and spiral out of control. | |||
*Also where are the daleks. If the stars are supposed to be going out because of the reality bomb then in order for the bomb to work wouldnt the daleks have snatched the earth and thus Donna and Rose should be living under a Dalek ruled earth. There would be no reason for the Daleks not to use Earth as it is weaker now without the Doctor the Valiant, Torchwood Sarah Jane and Martha. | *Also where are the daleks. If the stars are supposed to be going out because of the reality bomb then in order for the bomb to work wouldnt the daleks have snatched the earth and thus Donna and Rose should be living under a Dalek ruled earth. There would be no reason for the Daleks not to use Earth as it is weaker now without the Doctor the Valiant, Torchwood Sarah Jane and Martha. | ||
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:: Since the Doctor likely died by drowning it's possible that he did regenerate while underwater, but then drowned again, and so on until all his regenerations were used up. This may be why the Doctor's face is covered when the paramedics retrieve him, it may actually be the 13th Doctor. | :: Since the Doctor likely died by drowning it's possible that he did regenerate while underwater, but then drowned again, and so on until all his regenerations were used up. This may be why the Doctor's face is covered when the paramedics retrieve him, it may actually be the 13th Doctor. | ||
::He 'dies' in the Impossible Astronaut, by being shot twice before being able to regenerate, and the universe believes it, therefore it must be possible for him to die without regenerating. | ::He 'dies' in the Impossible Astronaut, by being shot twice before being able to regenerate, and the universe believes it, therefore it must be possible for him to die without regenerating. | ||
*The Doctor revealed that the Nuclear Storm drive would wipe out '''all''' life on Earth. This is incorrect as it only destroys London. | *The Doctor revealed that the Nuclear Storm drive would wipe out '''all''' life on Earth. This is incorrect as it only destroys London. | ||
::Someone on board the ship could have prevented it having such a bad effect - perhaps Astrid or Frame. This can possibly be proven by the fact that the Titanic pulls up in the news report. Although in real-life this is due to the fact that it was the same footage from ''The Voyage of the Damned'', if taken from an in-universe perspective, someone might have tried to pull-up the Titanic, and although they ulitmately failed, it wasn't a direct impact, and so the effect were reduced. | ::Someone on board the ship could have prevented it having such a bad effect - perhaps Astrid or Frame. This can possibly be proven by the fact that the Titanic pulls up in the news report. Although in real-life this is due to the fact that it was the same footage from ''The Voyage of the Damned'', if taken from an in-universe perspective, someone might have tried to pull-up the Titanic, and although they ulitmately failed, it wasn't a direct impact, and so the effect were reduced. | ||
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*Why isn't the planet ruled by [[Pyrovile]]s and/or [[Carrionite]]s if the Doctor wasn't alive to stop them? | *Why isn't the planet ruled by [[Pyrovile]]s and/or [[Carrionite]]s if the Doctor wasn't alive to stop them? | ||
::The beetle was part of the Trickster's brigade - perhaps the Trickster stopped those invasions. And once again, in his previous appearance it was established that the Trickster intervenes to prevent world-ending catastrophes caused by his meddling if the alternative would be more chaotic. This can apply to all post-''Runaway Bride'' incidents directly caused by the Doctor, except for the Master trilogy, which is discussed below. Alternatively, for the Pyroviles, there planet was never taken in Donna's alternate reality, so they didn't crash to Earth. | ::The beetle was part of the Trickster's brigade - perhaps the Trickster stopped those invasions. And once again, in his previous appearance it was established that the Trickster intervenes to prevent world-ending catastrophes caused by his meddling if the alternative would be more chaotic. This can apply to all post-''Runaway Bride'' incidents directly caused by the Doctor, except for the Master trilogy, which is discussed below. Alternatively, for the Pyroviles, there planet was never taken in Donna's alternate reality, so they didn't crash to Earth. (Which mean's it's possible in the alternate reality that Pompeii was never destroyed.) | ||
*What about the reality bomb though surely that would compromise his plans more than any other alien invasion and he would do something i.e. stop the bomb or put time back to its normal place. | *What about the reality bomb though surely that would compromise his plans more than any other alien invasion and he would do something i.e. stop the bomb or put time back to its normal place. | ||
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::Most of the survivors would be thinking the same, and most airports would have been desroyed in the explosion, meaning extremelly congested airports | ::Most of the survivors would be thinking the same, and most airports would have been desroyed in the explosion, meaning extremelly congested airports | ||
::It's also established that the military takes almost immediate control, as demonstrated by their forcing relocations. Most likely they declared total quarantine and martial law, and blockaded all traffic in OR out. | ::It's also established that the military takes almost immediate control, as demonstrated by their forcing relocations. Most likely they declared total quarantine and martial law, and blockaded all traffic in OR out. | ||
::The are copious examples in real life where conditions in a country become dire, yet people are simply unable or unwilling to leave. | |||
*It is stated in [[Journey's End]] that the Dimension Jump needs 30 minutes to recharge. But Rose used it at the start and the end of her second meeting with Donna, which only lasted under 5 minutes. | *It is stated in [[Journey's End]] that the Dimension Jump needs 30 minutes to recharge. But Rose used it at the start and the end of her second meeting with Donna, which only lasted under 5 minutes. | ||
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*Wouldn't the swarm from ''[[Planet of the Dead (TV story)|Planet of the Dead]]'' still come through the wormhole in London causing the whole world to be turned into a desert? | *Wouldn't the swarm from ''[[Planet of the Dead (TV story)|Planet of the Dead]]'' still come through the wormhole in London causing the whole world to be turned into a desert? | ||
::This timeline ends (i.e., UNIT sends Donna back in time) before the swarm arrived on Earth. | ::This timeline ends (i.e., UNIT sends Donna back in time) before the swarm arrived on Earth. | ||
:::Indeed, no stories broadcast after ''Turn Left'' should be considered because the alternate timeline ends with this episode. | |||
*The police would have noted Donna's death and reported it to her family. At some point someone in the real world would have noticed that there are two Donnas, one of them dead. | *The police would have noted Donna's death and reported it to her family. At some point someone in the real world would have noticed that there are two Donnas, one of them dead. | ||
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*In Voyage of the Damned, everyone in London went to the countryside at Christmas. When the Titanic crashed, the only people who would have still been there is the Queen. Why do they apparently stay in this episode when there is nothing has changed since the Doctor's death to make it so? | *In Voyage of the Damned, everyone in London went to the countryside at Christmas. When the Titanic crashed, the only people who would have still been there is the Queen. Why do they apparently stay in this episode when there is nothing has changed since the Doctor's death to make it so? | ||
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*If the Trickster is responsible for "fixing" the major events happening on earth, why did he so | *If the Trickster is responsible for "fixing" the major events happening on earth, why did he so arbitrarily leave out the ones that happens in recent times? Based on the episode he 1) Stopped the Cult of Skaro in Manhattan in 1920s; 2) Stopped the Pyrovilles from conquering the Earth; and 3) Stopped the Carrionites in 1600s, and yet he did nothing against 1) the Sontaran Invasion (stopped by Torchwood); 2) the Spaceship Titanic and 3) the Adipose. Why the former three and not the latter three, and why the ones who occur in modern times? | ||
:: The Trickster exists to cause chaos, those events which he still allowed to happen are an example of that chaos. | :: The Trickster exists to cause chaos, those events which he still allowed to happen are an example of that chaos. | ||
:: The major difference between the events the Trickster is hypothesized to have stopped, and the ones that he did nothing about, were that the former would have resulted in the total extinction of the human race, while the later were localized disasters (the Sontaran Invasion could have destroyed the human race, but if Torchwood was able to stop it the Trickster might have felt it unnecessary to intervene). From this we can infer that the Trickster needed the human race alive for whatever he was planning. | :: The major difference between the events the Trickster is hypothesized to have stopped, and the ones that he did nothing about, were that the former would have resulted in the total extinction of the human race, while the later were localized disasters (the Sontaran Invasion could have destroyed the human race, but if Torchwood was able to stop it the Trickster might have felt it unnecessary to intervene). From this we can infer that the Trickster needed the human race alive for whatever he was planning. | ||
* Why does the titanic only destroy London when in Voyage of the Damned it states that when the titanic hits the earth all six billion people would be killed? | * Why does the titanic only destroy London when in Voyage of the Damned it states that when the titanic hits the earth all six billion people would be killed? | ||
:: This is already covered above. | |||
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