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Someone else will need to do this as I refused to watch it, but I think it might be interesting to list the major edits made by the CBC in cutting the episode down from 65 minutes to 44 minutes or so to fit the 60 minutes (with commercials) time slot it aired in tonight. Normally I wouldn't see listing circumstantial edits as being worthwhile, but this was such a major cut (21 minutes is the same length as an average half-hour program before commercials in the US and Canada) that I think it's worth noting the butchery this episode went through. As I say, though, I refused to watch it in this form (I have the DVDs already) so maybe another Canadian contributor can fill the blanks here. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 05:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | Someone else will need to do this as I refused to watch it, but I think it might be interesting to list the major edits made by the CBC in cutting the episode down from 65 minutes to 44 minutes or so to fit the 60 minutes (with commercials) time slot it aired in tonight. Normally I wouldn't see listing circumstantial edits as being worthwhile, but this was such a major cut (21 minutes is the same length as an average half-hour program before commercials in the US and Canada) that I think it's worth noting the butchery this episode went through. As I say, though, I refused to watch it in this form (I have the DVDs already) so maybe another Canadian contributor can fill the blanks here. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 05:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
* DWIN actually posted a list of the edits -- some of which are awful -- so I'll go ahead and add a few highlights and a link to the full list. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | * DWIN actually posted a list of the edits -- some of which are awful -- so I'll go ahead and add a few highlights and a link to the full list. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 15:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Donna's Ring == | |||
Under the rumors section, it says: | |||
# Concerning Donna's ring, at the end of the season 4 finale, when the Doctor says good-bye to her it glimmers briefly into the camera. Some fans theorise that the ring is a possible Chamelon Arch containing Donna's memories of her time with the Doctor. It has also been suggested that the ring resembles a ring worn by The Master in a previous episode. Others theorise that the ring is just large, black, and very shiny. But this cannot be so as Donna was not wearing it towards the end of Journey's End before her mind was wiped and why would the Doctor put a ring on Donna anyway? | |||
However, Donna is clearly wearing this ring throughout [[The Stolen Earth]] and Journey's End. During her time at the Shadow Proclamation the ring can be seen several times quite clearly in close-ups. The ring is further visible several times later throughout the two episodes. | |||
Personally, I do like to think that Donna was Chameleon Arched, and all we saw was the Doctor make her fall asleep to spare her the pain and give him enough time to properly wipe her mind. After all, if she had a fob watch or anything else storing her memories and half-Time Lady status, it would have a perception filter on it, and Donna would hardly pay enough attention to it to show it to us in her brief appearances after the Doctor takes her mind - even including the brief deleted scene. | |||
As this is a theory and put in the rumors section, I hesitate to delete it, especially since it does explain more than one view, and all that's disproved is the ring's status as a Chameleon Arch item - not the use of the Arch itself.--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 05:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC) | |||