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| ==Could someone remove the 'Sarn' bit in the storynotes?==
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| It's nothing to do with the planet. The scenes there were filmed in Ogmore, and one of the villages is called 'Sarn'. It's of no significance.[[Special:Contributions/79.69.89.103|79.69.89.103]] 00:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Synopsis==
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| Where is it from? [[User:DuduDoctor|DuduDoctor]] 18:26, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| --I agree, ive had to change this twice now. While the title is confirmed i havent seen anyplot details. Should we just keep changing it ?
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| :Please remember to sign all posts with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>. '''[http://doctor-who-collectors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Tardis1963 <span style="background:#0E234E; color:white">Tardis1963</span>]''' 22:42, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Redhead remark ==
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| The Dreamlord says 'The Doctor loves a Redhead' to Amy Pond referencing the Master in The End of Time saying 'Oh, he love's playing with Earth girls' in a reference to Donna Noble and Sarah Jane Smith.
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| == Dream Lord or Nightmare Man ? ==
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| SJA series 4 has a Nightmare Man story. Could this be a coincidence or the same adversary as the rumoured Dream Lord in this episode? [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 08:40, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| In the next time trailer, the Dream Lord says something like 'you're the time lord, let's call me the dream lord' which implies that is not who / what he really is [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 07:34, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| It turns out that the 'Dream Lord' is actually the Doctor. [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 19:08, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Due to the fact that Matt Smith will be in SJA series 4, it's possible Dream Lord could re-emerge as the 'Nightmare Man'. Don't see how as of yet though. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 20:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Pregnant?==
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| Is Amy pregnant with the Doctor's child?[[Special:Contributions/71.161.234.46|71.161.234.46]] 07:20, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| All we know is that Amy is '''shown''' to be pregnant. Considering the presumptive villian in this episode is a man called the Dream Lord, we can't take anything at face value, can we? We don't know if Amy is pregnant with Rory or The Doctor's child. We'll just have to wait and see (or wait for spoilers, as River would say!) [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 16:23, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| The trailer implies that the "future" Amy is just a dream. As she is seen with Rory, the assumption is that its his child (they've been married for 5 years). [[User:Jedman67|Jedman67]] 06:21, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| I agree. Remember I posted that a week ago. Actually, after I posted that, I rememebred that Pyria (gotta check her name) cursed the Time Lords with sterility, which is why they use the looms. Anyway, it could all be a dream, don't forget! [[User:Musedae|Musedae]] 14:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| Unless it was mentioned onscreen, you can't take it at face value. Remember that Hartnell's granddaughter was with him in the TARDIS; the only mention of looms is in some of the novels - which have been known to take some liberties with canon. [[User:Jedman67|Jedman67]] 05:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| : Also in the next time trailer, Amy is pregnant in the village but not in the Tardis. Not so clear if Rory only has the ponytail in the village [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 07:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| : Rory (when he's "got" by Mrs Poggit): Take care of <u>'''''our'''''</u>''' '''baby.[[User:Jollygreen-giant|Jollygreen-giant]] 23:31, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| : Also in the begining of the episode Rory and Amy comment that they hadn't seen the Doctor in 5 years, the average human pregnancy is 9 months, this being wednesday now this is fairly irrelevant but worth mentioning IMO. ~---- Anon, 18:30, May 19, 2010 (GMT)
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| ==The Big Bang==
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| If it is five years into Amy's future, what happened about the big bang that happened five years ago? Did the Doctor stop it or something like that? [[User:Who7|Who7]] 11:57, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| Perhaps Amy's future is just a dream, and her, the Doctor and Rory may are sleeping in the TARDIS a few hours after the end of "Vampire of Venice" as seen in the trailer. That could explain why Amy is not pregnant in the TARDIS and her 'heartbreaking choice' might be to choose between her little family dream, or the reality...we'll see... [[User:Sam122|Sam122]] 15:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Plaque==
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| <p style="text-align:center">Regarding no. 11: (SPOILERS!)</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">TARDIS</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">TIME AND RELATIVE DIMENSION IN SPACE</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">BUILD SITE: GALLIFREY BLACKHOLE SHIPYARD</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">TYPE 40 BUILD DATE: 1963</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">AUTHORISED FOR USE BY QUALIFIED TIME LORDS ONLY</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">BY THE SHADOW PROCLAMATION</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">*Something that's too small for me to read*</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">[[User:Throan Loremaker|Throan Loremaker]] 22:42, May 15, 2010 (UTC)</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">MISUSE OF THEFT OF ANY TARDIS WILL RESULT IN EXTREME PENALTIES AND PERMENANT EXILE</p>
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| <p style="text-align:center">[[User:Unhari|Unhari]] 21:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)</p>
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| Now we know how the First Doctor earned his exile. [[User:Unhari|Unhari]] 21:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==2016==
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| The episode is actually set in 2016 becuse Amy appeers in season 32 in 2011[[Special:Contributions/85.250.46.91|85.250.46.91]] 17:59, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
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| It could be in 2017 or above because Any might stay on doctor who for more than 2 seasons. [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 19:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| The time when Amy and the Doctor parted ways in the "Upper Leadworth" world is all part of a dream with implanted memories, so has been made up essentially, it doesn't need to be accurate to the seasons that Karen is doing. [[User:TomJ|TomJ]] 23:00, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| : Considering the whole thing was a dream while still in the TARDIS, ''none'' of it took place in 2015/16/17. [[User:DigiFluid|DigiFluid]] 06:36, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Entire episode inside the TARDIS? ==
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| Now, can we say that this entire episode took place inside the TARDIS? Although there were scenes filmed in different places, Amy, the Doctor and Rory weren't even there, they never left the TARDIS. So can we say that this episode took place entirely within the TARDIS? [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 20:38, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| Hadn't thought about that til you pointed it out but yeah I guess you're right. [[User:Carnivius Prime|Carnivius Prime]] 20:49, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Incorrect alien name==
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| Can someone please amend Plot section as it incorrectly mentions the Ha'rik which are actually not mentioned in the episode, the Doctor identifies the aliens as Ecnodeen. Was this section all just copied from the wikipedia article, which I didn't think was allowed ? [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 08:44, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| I have changed the plot so it is Ecnodeen not Ha'rik. [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 08:51, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| == References ==
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| Hopefully I did it the right way (never created a new section before).
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| 2 References I noticed: The "Dream Lord" calls the Doctor "last of the Time Lords" and "The oncoming storm" (about 10:30) and later he says to Amy "anything could happen" in a way that reminds me of Jackie Tyler saying the same thing to the ninth doctor in the episode "Rose".[[Special:Contributions/78.43.114.215|78.43.114.215]] 13:50, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| What about the remark about sofas that can read? Is that another Hitchhikers reference? [[Special:Contributions/86.26.137.154|86.26.137.154]] 07:33, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Production Error ==
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| I know the reason for the production error. Its because a stunt double was used when Rory was thrown on his back, so Arthur never got the mud on his back in the first place. You can see this in the Doctor Who Confidential for this episode. I don't know how to site a source, otherwise would have fixed this myself.
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| ''-I believe that, since the whole world was a dream, certain mistakes like these can be overseen. Why wouldn't they be able remove a mudstain in a dream?''
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| ''[[User:Silven6|Silven6]] 15:15, May 18, 2010 (UTC)''
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| That's not really a reason. Tv shows and movies aren't shot in chronological order. You shoot them according to who is on the set and what the conditions are. It's entirely possible for two shots to have been shot on two separate days, in opposite order. Back and forth dialouge, for instance, is usually shot entirely from one side with a double filling in for the character not facing the camera, then again for the other direction. That way, you're not paying an actor to sit around on the set doing nothing.
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| == Back to the "5 things to watch out for" ==
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| Someone said before about eyes being one of the things to look out for. And in this one the aliens show their eyes out of the old peoples' mouths! I think eyes may be another of the things to look out for. Anyone else? [[User:Mc hammark|Mc hammark]] 12:23, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| Eyes are major:<br />
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| TEH: Atraxi Eyes, Corner of your Eye
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| TBB: Crying (?)<br />
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| VOTD: Zoom in on Eye Stalk
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| TTOA/FAS: Don't Look Into It's Eyes, Angel in Amy's Eye
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| VOV: ?<br />
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| AC: Echodeen Eyes in the Mouths.
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| -Tom
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| Also in FAS when River is talking to The Doctor there is an eye moving on the screen behind her![[User:OGREPOP|OGREPOP]] 19:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Why change it? ==
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| Why has the entire plot description and the profile screenshot been changed? The original was much more better. --'''''[[User:Tidalwave11|<span style="color:darkorange">Tidalwave11, just surfing the waves, three times a week</span>]]''''' 13:37, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
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| == lawnmower thing ==
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| the scene were the Old people besiege Amy & Rory house (Homage on the Romero Zombie movies ?)
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| one of old lady swing a lawnmower over her head, is this a homage on Peter Jackson Movie Braindeath ?
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| were hero swing lawnmower aganst zombie besiege his house...--[[Special:Contributions/81.247.225.123|81.247.225.123]] 20:53, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Custard? ==
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| In the begining of the plot synopsis it says Amy was stiring custard but in the episode I could have sworn I saw cupcakes on the bench & later on when she was licking the spoon it seemed to thick for custard.I think it was probobly icing for cupcakes.<p style="text-align:center">[[Special:Contributions/116.250.51.26|116.250.51.26]] 20:47, May 30, 2010 (UTC)</p>
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| == Pollen? ==
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| I think that the pollen, being the 'real' baddies here, should be credited as an 'enemy' here. Thanx! [[User:BlueDalek|BlueDalek]] 17:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Wrench to cutters ==
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| Did anyone else notice that as the docotr hands amy the open wrench he hands Rory an <u>Adjustable</u> wrench, He then says his 'Don't beleive anything' and it cuts back to Rory and he is holding a pair of <u>Cutters.</u> I wonder if this means the prop guys messed up, Or if it was a subtle way of showing things change without people noticing.
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| I think it was on purpose. There seemed to be a lot of "slightly off" instances in the dream worlds to keep you guessing. Well, except the star, that was straight up absurdity and made me positive that both worlds were dreams.
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| I watched the scene : the Doctor never gave Rory an adjustable wrench, it was cutters all along.[[Special:Contributions/90.8.191.70|90.8.191.70]] 07:04, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Main image ==
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| [[User:Skittles the hog]] and myself have yet another little discussion of what the main image should be. He wants [[:File:Amy12.jpg|this image]] and I want [[:File:Amy's-choice.jpg|this image]]. Now, I don't like "his" image, it doesn't describe the episode that well. It's the frozen TARDIS. But where's Amy, we need her, the episode is mostly centered around her. Ironically, my image is when she makes her choice, by crashing the camper van. Although another thing is, Mr Hog did not upload this image, it was [[User:Ishdan]]. If you Sir, upload your '''own''' image suggestion for the main image of this article I would be very grateful to see it. Mine is in no way low quality, how is it? So, I... don't know. Should my image stay or should Sir Ishdan's stay? But in my opinion Skittles T Hog, upload your image. [[User:BroadcastCorp|BroadcastCorp]] <small>([[User talk:BroadcastCorp|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/BroadcastCorp|contribs]])</small> 15:32, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
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| :I agree with BCorp: his image is better, because it actually shows Amy making her choice. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 15:36, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I know I'm quite late to the party, but improvements can always be made, so what matters? I think the second image is better, as it shows, as stated above, Amy making her choice. Actually, it shows her acting upon her choice. An even better image, in my opinion, would be one of when Amy's convincing the Doctor that she knows the Upper Leadworth world is the dream. ~{{User:D0ct0r11/sig}} 14:47 Thu 1 Jan 2012
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| == Time gap ==
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| : ''It is also the first signifigant time gap since ''The End of Time'' as it does not take place directly after the previous episode.''
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| I may be mistaken, but isn't the first significant time gap since that episode the gap between ''Victory of the Daleks'' and ''The Time of Angels''? VotD doesn't lead directly in to TToA; Amy even has time to change clothes. Is this correct? ~{{User:D0ct0r11/sig}} 14:33 Thu 1 Jan 2012
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| == Kinda explains the doctor's self meetings ==
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| In each time the doctor meets himself by accidentally crossing timelines, he argues and gets testy with his former and future selves. as stated in this episode, he hates himself. so it explains why these meetings are always so negative towards each other.
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