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::Even when the skies are dark with clouds, there are a few beams of sunlight that get through. Obviously, there was enough light that Amy thought it was worth trying as a desperation move--but not that much, because she seemed surprised that it worked. | ::Even when the skies are dark with clouds, there are a few beams of sunlight that get through. Obviously, there was enough light that Amy thought it was worth trying as a desperation move--but not that much, because she seemed surprised that it worked. | ||
::It looked more like a compact mirror than a phone. | |||
*In her final scene, Lady Calvieri removes her clothing before throwing herself into the water, however it is clear from when her perception filter malfunctions that the clothes are completely illusory. Master Calvieri similarly removed his cloak and wields a sword, both of which are also illusions. However, the sword hits are felt by Rory and the broom he is using is cut by it. | *In her final scene, Lady Calvieri removes her clothing before throwing herself into the water, however it is clear from when her perception filter malfunctions that the clothes are completely illusory. Master Calvieri similarly removed his cloak and wields a sword, both of which are also illusions. However, the sword hits are felt by Rory and the broom he is using is cut by it. | ||
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::This could be an environmental difference between Saturnyne and Earth - who's to say that Saturnyne wasn't further away from its sun than the Earth is? | ::This could be an environmental difference between Saturnyne and Earth - who's to say that Saturnyne wasn't further away from its sun than the Earth is? | ||
*If Saturnyne was lost to the | *If Saturnyne was lost to the Crack then shouldn't the planet and by extension the Saturnyns (who presumably evolved on the planet) cease to exist? | ||
::It was just the planet that ceased to exist, not the actual aliens themselves. | ::It was just the planet that ceased to exist, not the actual aliens themselves. | ||
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::::::This was explained in [[TV]]: ''[[The Pandorica Opens (TV story)|The Pandorica Opens]]''. Sometimes things are left behind that people can't quite explain like Amy and the engagement ring. | ::::::This was explained in [[TV]]: ''[[The Pandorica Opens (TV story)|The Pandorica Opens]]''. Sometimes things are left behind that people can't quite explain like Amy and the engagement ring. | ||
:::::Arguing that "if Earth disappeared from time, then every human would be gone so the same should happen with Saturnyne" as an explanation why "if Saturnyne disappeared from time, then every Saturnyn would be gone" is seriously unsound and flawed. You're simply using a ''variation'' on the original hypothesis to "prove" the hypothesis. | |||
::First, it has been quite consistently shown that when these Cracks erase someone, it does not ''rewrite'' history. It simply removes the person from memory. E.g. when the clerics were erased (''[[Flesh and Stone (TV story)|Flesh and Stone]]''), they weren't replaced with substitutes, and yet the Angels didn't suddenly manage to overwhelm the remaining people due to insufficient clerics to keep watch on them. In the same way '''IF''' Saturnyne was erased (the explanations we hear are quite vague), anyone who managed to leave the planet before this happened isn't also rewritten out of history. | |||
::Second, Lady Calvieri mentions at least 2 different kinds of Cracks. | |||
* The Doctor usually asks all the alien races to withdraw peacefully so he can find them a new home. Why wouldn't he do it now seeing how Lady Calvieri didn't particularly care about the death of the human race and just the survival of her species? | * The Doctor usually asks all the alien races to withdraw peacefully so he can find them a new home. Why wouldn't he do it now seeing how Lady Calvieri didn't particularly care about the death of the human race and just the survival of her species? | ||
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:::I think it's because he's a different Doctor. It was the 10th Doctor who was in the habit of offering different races to help them find an uninhabited planet of their own so they wouldn't have to invade an already inhabited planet. Every incarnation of the Doctor has a different personality. So while the 10th Doctor would definitely offer them a new planet, the 11th Doctor, apparently didn't think the same way. | :::I think it's because he's a different Doctor. It was the 10th Doctor who was in the habit of offering different races to help them find an uninhabited planet of their own so they wouldn't have to invade an already inhabited planet. Every incarnation of the Doctor has a different personality. So while the 10th Doctor would definitely offer them a new planet, the 11th Doctor, apparently didn't think the same way. | ||
::The Doctor gave a very clear and specific reason why he was going to bring down house Calvieri: "She didn't know Isabella's name". Clearly he was very angry at the time. Furthermore he '''does try''' to help/save her at the end. | |||
*In the scene when The Doctor is climbing through the bell tower: when he hear the sound of the bells he covers his ears and shows great pain as if the bells were too loud for his ears to stand. But in previous episodes he is able to withstand these sounds such as when he puts two sonics together or sonicing the TARDIS sound system. | *In the scene when The Doctor is climbing through the bell tower: when he hear the sound of the bells he covers his ears and shows great pain as if the bells were too loud for his ears to stand. But in previous episodes he is able to withstand these sounds such as when he puts two sonics together or sonicing the TARDIS sound system. | ||
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::Indeed the Doctor has never been presented as a pacifist. Every doctor has, on at least one occasion, used a weapon to achieve a goal if he had to. In fact they all have resorted to physical combat when the need arose. | ::Indeed the Doctor has never been presented as a pacifist. Every doctor has, on at least one occasion, used a weapon to achieve a goal if he had to. In fact they all have resorted to physical combat when the need arose. | ||
::And this bears absolutely no relevance to this story (he used the gun 2 stories earlier). So why on saturnyne is it getting so much attention? | |||
*Why didn't the Doctor just use the TARDIS to get into Calvieri's school? It would be much safer than sending Amy in there. | *Why didn't the Doctor just use the TARDIS to get into Calvieri's school? It would be much safer than sending Amy in there. | ||
::Because they were already in events [[The Girl in the Fireplace]]. | ::Because they were already in events [[The Girl in the Fireplace]]. | ||
:::That's not a hindrance to using the TARDIS to move in space ''[[Aliens of London (TV story)|Aliens of London]]''. And sometimes he can even move through time ''[[Smith and Jones (TV story)|Smith and Jones]]'' (albeit only for "cheap tricks"). | |||
*When the Doctor is on the church at the top, when congratulating himself he should have fallen off because the roof was slippery and wet and he was almost falling off before. | *When the Doctor is on the church at the top, when congratulating himself he should have fallen off because the roof was slippery and wet and he was almost falling off before. | ||
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*During the dialogue between the Doctor and Rosanna, she addresses him as the Doctor "I need an answer, Doctor" though he has not told her who he is before, only that he's from Gallifrey. | *During the dialogue between the Doctor and Rosanna, she addresses him as the Doctor "I need an answer, Doctor" though he has not told her who he is before, only that he's from Gallifrey. | ||
::She seems to be familiar with the Time War; though it's not clear how much detail she knows. Also she heard Amy calling for the Doctor earlier in the story, and could easily have figured it out. | |||
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