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*How does going back to check on van Gogh after looking at the monster-in-the-church painting, and preventing the monster from being included in it, not mess up timelines like in Father's Day?
*How does going back to check on van Gogh after looking at the monster-in-the-church painting, and preventing the monster from being included in it, not mess up timelines like in Father's Day?
::Unlike Father's Day, at no point does the Doctor cross his own timeline in this story.
::Unlike Father's Day, at no point does the Doctor cross his own timeline in this story.
:::One other thing to remember is that from the Doctor's perspective, nearly *every* story is taking place in "the past" (from some perspective). He constantly is changing events. He just (usually) knows how to do it in such a way that it doesn't have the dangerous effects that Rose caused in Father's Day.
 
:::One other thing to remember is that from the Doctor's perspective, nearly *every* story is taking place in "the past" (from some perspective). He is constantly changing events. He just (usually) knows how to do it in such a way that it doesn't have the dangerous effects that Rose caused in Father's Day.
 
*Why does the Doctor need to hurry Dr Black for an answer of when the picture was painted? The Doctor has a time machine, he can get to Paris any time, he doesn't need to hurry?
*Why does the Doctor need to hurry Dr Black for an answer of when the picture was painted? The Doctor has a time machine, he can get to Paris any time, he doesn't need to hurry?
::He's most probably eager to sort Vincent van Gogh out etc, and plus he doesn't want Doctor Black to ramble on with information that he probably mostly already knows.
 
::He's most probably eager to sort Vincent van Gogh out. Plus he doesn't want Doctor Black to ramble on with information that he probably mostly already knows.
 
::In addition, he probably didn't want to take time away from the museum visitors.
::In addition, he probably didn't want to take time away from the museum visitors.
::The implication does seem to be that he's in a rush, as if the times were somehow connected (similar to the beginning of ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]'').
::The implication does seem to be that he's in a rush, as if the times were somehow connected (similar to the beginning of ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]'').


*Why can Vincent see the Krafayus? This is never explained.
*Why can Vincent see the Krafayis? This is never explained.
::Its implided its down to his unique way of seeing the world.


::When the Doctor, Amy and Vincent are about to enter His house the Doctor says "Dark night very starry" Vincent replies "It's not much" Then at near the end he thinks and sees differntly and he sees what will become the "Starry night" but when the have entered  his house at the start we see a starry night.
::It's implied it's due to his unique way of seeing the world.
 
::When the Doctor, Amy and Vincent are about to enter his house the Doctor says "Dark night very starry" Vincent replies "It's not much". Then near the end he thinks and sees differently and he sees what will become the "Starry night" but when they entered  his house at the start we see a starry night.
 
*How can there be words 'For Amy' in ''Sunflowers''? ''Sunflowers'' was painted in 1888, but the Doctor and Amy visited Vincent in 1890.


*How can there be words 'For Amy' in ''Sunflowers''? ''Sunflowes'' were painted in 1888, but the Doctor and Amy visited Vincent in 1890.
::Since Vincent Van Gogh made many changes to his Sunflower paintings, it is entirely possible for him to include an additional change during a later year for him to dedicate the painting to Amy.
::Since Vincent Van Gogh made many changes to his Sunflower paintings, it is entirely possible for him to include an additional change during a later year for him to dedicate the painting to Amy.
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  • How does going back to check on van Gogh after looking at the monster-in-the-church painting, and preventing the monster from being included in it, not mess up timelines like in Father's Day?
Unlike Father's Day, at no point does the Doctor cross his own timeline in this story.
One other thing to remember is that from the Doctor's perspective, nearly *every* story is taking place in "the past" (from some perspective). He is constantly changing events. He just (usually) knows how to do it in such a way that it doesn't have the dangerous effects that Rose caused in Father's Day.
  • Why does the Doctor need to hurry Dr Black for an answer of when the picture was painted? The Doctor has a time machine, he can get to Paris any time, he doesn't need to hurry?
He's most probably eager to sort Vincent van Gogh out. Plus he doesn't want Doctor Black to ramble on with information that he probably mostly already knows.
In addition, he probably didn't want to take time away from the museum visitors.
The implication does seem to be that he's in a rush, as if the times were somehow connected (similar to the beginning of The End of Time).
  • Why can Vincent see the Krafayis? This is never explained.
It's implied it's due to his unique way of seeing the world.
When the Doctor, Amy and Vincent are about to enter his house the Doctor says "Dark night very starry" Vincent replies "It's not much". Then near the end he thinks and sees differently and he sees what will become the "Starry night" but when they entered his house at the start we see a starry night.
  • How can there be words 'For Amy' in Sunflowers? Sunflowers was painted in 1888, but the Doctor and Amy visited Vincent in 1890.
Since Vincent Van Gogh made many changes to his Sunflower paintings, it is entirely possible for him to include an additional change during a later year for him to dedicate the painting to Amy.