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:"Heavily implied" is not a valid source. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:07, October 11, 2015 (UTC) | :"Heavily implied" is not a valid source. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:07, October 11, 2015 (UTC) | ||
::No it's not. The Doctor was explaining a bootstrap paradox, and gave a hypothetical example. This means that we should understand how the paradox works by "imagining" that Beethoven didn't exist. He even said it never happened and that he had met Beethoven. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:17, October 12, 2015 (UTC) | ::No it's not. The Doctor was explaining a bootstrap paradox, and gave a hypothetical example. This means that we should understand how the paradox works by "imagining" that Beethoven didn't exist. He even said it never happened and that he had met Beethoven. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:17, October 12, 2015 (UTC) | ||
::It could be thought that the closing comment implies that the Doctor actually did write Beethoven's Fifth. But as mentioned, it is not clear what is "true" in all that. -- [[User:Beardouk|Beardouk]] [[User talk:Beardouk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:46, May 21, 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 20:46, 21 May 2016
The Doctor's Age
In the episode, the Doctor slept in a "tank" for 139 years. Is he now about 2139 years old? Mentuhotep I ☎ 08:09, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
I have added that in Earth terms he would be about that age. Thanks. --90.221.128.67talk to mek 12:08, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
- Wasn't he in statis? If so, he hasn't aged at all physically. Snivystorm ☎ 16:29, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
Beethoven existence
It's heavily implied that Beethoven is the Twelfth Doctor in this episode, does anything need to happen to their pages? --90.221.128.67talk to me 12:22, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
- "Heavily implied" is not a valid source. Shambala108 ☎ 17:07, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
- No it's not. The Doctor was explaining a bootstrap paradox, and gave a hypothetical example. This means that we should understand how the paradox works by "imagining" that Beethoven didn't exist. He even said it never happened and that he had met Beethoven. --DCLM ☎ 12:17, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
- It could be thought that the closing comment implies that the Doctor actually did write Beethoven's Fifth. But as mentioned, it is not clear what is "true" in all that. -- Beardouk ☎ 20:46, May 21, 2016 (UTC)
Fourth wall
It appears that the Doctor breaks the Fourth Wall, but actually he doesn't. The beginning of the episode is a sneak at the ending of the episode, and the person he's talking to is actually Clara. The screen(s) is(are) Clara's eyes. --DCLM ☎ 12:17, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
It would still qualify as leaning on the fourth wall at the very least, where even if he didn't break it he comes very close to it. Also, did he seriously tell Clara to "google" the bootstrap paradox? Stryzzar (talk) 12:22, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
Sure, why wouldn't he have told Clara to google it? It's common during her era, and both of them have made references to similar current websites/apps. Spreee ☎ 16:24, October 12, 2015 (UTC)Spreee
- Incidentally, a Happy Christmas to all of you at home!--Skittles the hog - talk 16:50, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
The Eleventh Doctor mentioned Twitter at least twice (maybe more) so mentioning Google isn't that anachronistic. 74.102.29.172talk to me 21:31, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
