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What is the criteria for being 'major' (and thus emboldening the name)? Obviously playing a doctor or companion counts, but where is the line past that? [[User:Sheridan|Sheridan]] [[User talk:Sheridan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:57, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
What is the criteria for being 'major' (and thus emboldening the name)? Obviously playing a doctor or companion counts, but where is the line past that? [[User:Sheridan|Sheridan]] [[User talk:Sheridan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:57, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
:Indeed.  Though it's taken a few years to see this comment, that's a valid, and essentially unanswerable, concern.  Truth is, the issue is even bigger than "Which names get emboldened?" It's, "Which names get on the list?" Either you list them all -- which is a technically challenging task -- or you don't make the attempt. The list was heavily biased towards television, which goes against one of the wiki's basic precepts.  It simply wasn't -- and couldn't be -- media-neutral. 
:After all, how much do we really know about the deaths of comics inkers, short story writers, lighting technicians, production secretaries, audio engineers, stunt performers, print editors, or any one of hundreds of jobs done in service to the [[DWU]]? And how much are we going to know about these sorts of workers in the future?
:Probably not very much.  And even if we, through some miracle, able to get this level of detail, the list would be so very long that it would start to exhibit loading issues, particularly on phones.  And, of course, it would be so long that it would be of increasingly little use: who'd want to scroll through it all?
:But even if all that weren't true, the even broader problem with this article is that it was inadequately referenced. Only one entry had a specific reference, and that was to the Doctor Who Guide.  Meanwhile, the lead paragraph stated that a principle source was IMDb.  Both of these reference works are disallowed under [[T:RW SRC]].
:Consequently, the article had to go.
:This also applies to its sister article, [[real world birthdays]], where the problems of completely listing people are ''even greater'', as there've been more births than deaths at this point in the history of [[DWU]] productions.  Also, ''that'' article had problems surviving because of the implication of [[Forum:Removing ages from actor pages|this forum thread]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:37: Sun 07 Aug 2016</span>

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What is the criteria for being 'major' (and thus emboldening the name)? Obviously playing a doctor or companion counts, but where is the line past that? Sheridan 10:57, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. Though it's taken a few years to see this comment, that's a valid, and essentially unanswerable, concern. Truth is, the issue is even bigger than "Which names get emboldened?" It's, "Which names get on the list?" Either you list them all -- which is a technically challenging task -- or you don't make the attempt. The list was heavily biased towards television, which goes against one of the wiki's basic precepts. It simply wasn't -- and couldn't be -- media-neutral.
After all, how much do we really know about the deaths of comics inkers, short story writers, lighting technicians, production secretaries, audio engineers, stunt performers, print editors, or any one of hundreds of jobs done in service to the DWU? And how much are we going to know about these sorts of workers in the future?
Probably not very much. And even if we, through some miracle, able to get this level of detail, the list would be so very long that it would start to exhibit loading issues, particularly on phones. And, of course, it would be so long that it would be of increasingly little use: who'd want to scroll through it all?
But even if all that weren't true, the even broader problem with this article is that it was inadequately referenced. Only one entry had a specific reference, and that was to the Doctor Who Guide. Meanwhile, the lead paragraph stated that a principle source was IMDb. Both of these reference works are disallowed under T:RW SRC.
Consequently, the article had to go.
This also applies to its sister article, real world birthdays, where the problems of completely listing people are even greater, as there've been more births than deaths at this point in the history of DWU productions. Also, that article had problems surviving because of the implication of this forum thread.
czechout<staff />    17:37: Sun 07 Aug 2016