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:::::The whole ''point'' is to combine audios and books. And it ''is'' possible to tell — it explains at the top that ''Wildthyme on Top'' and the Obverse ones are anthologies, the other Big Finish ones are audios, and the Snowbooks ones are novels. But I'll see about changing the table so it's more specific. [[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:54, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
:::::The whole ''point'' is to combine audios and books. And it ''is'' possible to tell — it explains at the top that ''Wildthyme on Top'' and the Obverse ones are anthologies, the other Big Finish ones are audios, and the Snowbooks ones are novels. But I'll see about changing the table so it's more specific. [[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:54, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
== Separate pages ==
As another approach to resolving the table issue, may I suggest we split this into three pages: one for Big Finish (both audio and prose), one for Snowbooks Ltd. and one for Obverse Books. I mean, just because they're all stories about [[Iris Wildthyme]], doesn't mean they should be on the same page. After all, it '''is''' what [[Big Finish Bernice Summerfield series|we]] [[Virgin Bernice Summerfield New Adventures|do]] for Bernice Summerfiel: same character, different publishers, different pages. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:33, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

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multiple publishers

The "Publisher" field in the infobox currently only says "Big Finish Productions." It should link to Big Finish Productions, Obverse Books, and Snowbooks Ltd. But it seems it only accepts one value. Does someone else know how to do it? Fwhiffahder 20:13, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

Very simple: you add a publisher2 and publisher3.
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Ok. Thanks! Fwhiffahder 20:20, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

List of stories

Although I myself rather have it as a list, rather than a table, I'd understand why a table is more useful than a simple list. However, if we are to stick with a table, I think that audio and prose should definitely not be on the same table. They are very different forms of presenting stories, and it should be enough to separete these already.

However, the fact that Big Finish Productions has published both novels and audios means it would get a bit more difficult to keep track of what's audio and what's not.

Moreover, look at the # column of the table: we have two entries for 5. How are we to be able to keep track of what is what when the numbering cross between different media? OncomingStorm12th 20:55, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

This way the releases are put in the correct order regardless of publisher, which means the page is actually useful. Before, when they were split up by publisher, you had to check all three to figure out what the correct order was for reading/listening. Fwhiffahder 21:43, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from. But, I believe, most readers would be searching trhough the order of stories released by each publisher (to have some sort of continuity between products).
For example: suppose sees the page Iris: Abroad and wants to know what comes after it (through the Iris Wildthyme (series) page). This person would see Aboard is numbered 4. Obviously, this person would search for #5. But would this number 5 be "Wildthyme in Purple" or "Wildthyme Reloaded"? Yes, I know that the one by the same publisher as Aboard would be WiP, but it is very weird and confusing to have two different things having the same number, on the same table.
I don't think everything related to Iris WIldthyme (series) need to be put in chronological release order. Having it listed through the release order of each publisher seems just fine for me. OncomingStorm12th 21:50, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
I know for certain that release order makes it easier to go through the series, because I did it myself, and the wiki was no help. I had to collate the dates and make my own list. I understand that there are some people interested in the order of a specific publisher. So the table lists the publishers. They can skip the ones that aren't that publisher. I've also edited all the release pages so that they say both the order of the series as a whole, and the order for the specific publishers. The release numbers are slightly confusing, but it's not hard to work out that they correspond to the publishers. And some releases (Wildthyme on Top, The Claws of Santa) don't have numbers at all. I'm not sure that the Obverse ans Snowbooks ones are official numbering either, so it might be better to remove them and only list them on the individual pages. Fwhiffahder 22:03, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
I think at the very least audios and books should be broken out into separate lists. As it stands, this is confusing to anyone not familiar with the series. There's no way to tell, for example that Wildthyme on Top is a book while The Two Irises is audio. P&P talk contribs 23:30, December 20, 2016 (UTC)
The whole point is to combine audios and books. And it is possible to tell — it explains at the top that Wildthyme on Top and the Obverse ones are anthologies, the other Big Finish ones are audios, and the Snowbooks ones are novels. But I'll see about changing the table so it's more specific. Fwhiffahder 00:54, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Separate pages

As another approach to resolving the table issue, may I suggest we split this into three pages: one for Big Finish (both audio and prose), one for Snowbooks Ltd. and one for Obverse Books. I mean, just because they're all stories about Iris Wildthyme, doesn't mean they should be on the same page. After all, it is what we do for Bernice Summerfiel: same character, different publishers, different pages. OncomingStorm12th 23:33, December 24, 2016 (UTC)