Talk:Jane Marple

SOTO is right that the first name is not used in the references I've seen. Chances are it was never mentioned (or it could have been: such small references often go unrecorded). However, it is absolutely clear which character is meant. In a similar prior case, the first name of a real-world reference was used as the best way of disambiguating, despite not being mentioned in the DWU. While strictly speaking, it is not necessary to disambiguate Marple at the moment, I added the first name as future proofing. Amorkuz ☎ 22:57, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

UPD: I was not able to find the mention of "Jane" in TV stories mentioned on the page. Amorkuz ☎ 21:57, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

I don't see any need for a rename. This is not a character in the DWU, this is a fictional character in the DWU. Shambala108 ☎ 13:44, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

T:HONOR, in its current formulation, does not distinguish between types of characters or, indeed, types of pages. The exact quote is: "Honourifics are titles that come before a name, such as Mr, Mrs, Dr, Professor, religious ranks, or military ranks. These should generally not be included in article titles, unless they provide the only reasonable means of disambiguation." Amorkuz ☎ 14:26, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

If T:HONOR says that Miss Marple and Doctor Strange need to be renamed, that sounds like a problem with T:HONOR, not those page titles. Absolutely no one is going to wonder "Has Doctor Strange ever been mentioned in Doctor Who?", hop online, and search for "Strange (fictional character)". These page renames are actively eroding this website's usefulness as an encyclopedia. – N8 ☎ 17:26, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Fortunately for T:HONOUR, there are pages Miss Marple (series) and Doctor Strange (film) that should have {{you may}} to the character pages for those users who are not familiar with our policies. There are plenty of DWU characters that are almost universally referred to with some kind of honourifics, Sergeant Benton comes to mind. There are characters that are only referred to once or twice, and with an honourific,. It is, in fact, better to apply the rule uniformly than to make readers guess how deep into the DWU a given character embedded, and whether it was featured in the Land of Fiction, etc., to determine whether T:HONOUR applies or not. It's not like anyone would mistake Miss for a first name. I would be more careful with Little Lord Fauntleroy because that is not a standard honourific, but Miss, Doctor, Captain, etc. are stripped for everyone. Amorkuz ☎ 18:01, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

You know what, let's meet halfway. I think I figured the optimal way in terms of minimising the number of clicks. If the character page is Marple, the series page is Miss Marple (series), and there is a redirect from Miss Marple to Marple, then

• a person who goes by the wiki's naming policy gets to this page in one click;
• a person who types "Miss Marple" is instead presented with two options and can choose among them, also in one click. Amorkuz ☎ 18:49, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

That sounds like a great compromise :) May I make an analogous redirect from Captain Nemo to Nemo? – N8 ☎ 19:07, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Glad we agree. I made the redirects myself then, to save you the trouble. Amorkuz ☎ 19:30, November 7, 2017 (UTC)