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:well, I just would like to reiterate, Dalek hierarchy depends on the story and the writer. as far as Davros, some Daleks have followed him, others have hated him.  
:well, I just would like to reiterate, Dalek hierarchy depends on the story and the writer. as far as Davros, some Daleks have followed him, others have hated him.  


:in [[Destiny of the Daleks]] (the first "modern" Davros story, the first one took place during the [[Creation of the Daleks]]) they obeyed him without question. in [[Resurrection of the Daleks]] they had a love-hate relationship which by the end of the story had devolved into Davros's side versus the [[Supreme Dalek]]'s side. [[Revelation of the Daleks]] had the sma situation. (I don't remember if that story ever mentioned the [[Dalek Emperor]] but if it did, Davros would have opposed him.) Davros took over as Dalek Emperor in a comics story entitled [[Emperor of the Daleks]]. By [[Remembrance of the Daleks]] Davros led the [[Imperial Dalek]]s in opposition to the [[Renegade Dalek]]s (the gray daleks loyal to the Supreme Daleks).  
:in [[Destiny of the Daleks]] (the first "modern" Davros story, the first one took place during the [[Creation of the Daleks]]) they obeyed him without question. in [[Resurrection of the Daleks]] they had a love-hate relationship which by the end of the story had devolved into Davros's side versus the [[Supreme Dalek]]'s side. [[Revelation of the Daleks]] had the sma situation. (I don't remember if that story ever mentioned the [[Dalek Emperor]] but if it did, Davros would have opposed him.) Davros took over as Dalek Emperor in a comics story entitled [[Emperor of the Daleks!]]. By [[Remembrance of the Daleks]] Davros led the [[Imperial Dalek]]s in opposition to the [[Renegade Dalek]]s (the gray daleks loyal to the Supreme Daleks).  


:Davros appeared in an audio story called [[Terror Firma]] featuring the [[Eighth Doctor]] as Emperor. he appeared in another adudio story called [[The Juggernauts]]. I haven't listened to thes audio stories and only know what I have read about them on Wikipedia, so no comment.  
:Davros appeared in an audio story called [[Terror Firma]] featuring the [[Eighth Doctor]] as Emperor. he appeared in another adudio story called [[The Juggernauts]]. I haven't listened to thes audio stories and only know what I have read about them on Wikipedia, so no comment.  

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What's the Dalek Hierarchy? U have the cult of skaro who are "above and beyond" the Emporer. then the emporer himself. i'm not sure about the rest--Si 20:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, traditionally the hierarchy was, in descending order:
Then later:
Then during the Dalek civil war it was confused (with there being two sides), but after it had rejoined in the Time War it was probably something like this:
However, there are no clear Dalek hierarchies, so, ultimately, post-Time War, nobody really knows and most hierarchy can probably be considered speculation. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 20:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
the hierarchy varies from television story to televison story and from writer to writer. in the first Dalek story they had no formal leader. in the second, The Dalek Invasion of Earth they had a Black Dalek or Dalek Supreme (I forget which they called him).
the Emperor never got mentioned before The Evil of the Daleks and never again until "Revelation of the Daleks".
useful page:
http://www.historyvortex.org/DalekLeaders.html
this page has some answers. notes: the gold Dalek Emperors with the big heads never appeared on screen, just in the The Dalek Chronicles.
another, speculative, fanon, pre-Time War hierarchy:
http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/dalek-hierarchy.html
(if you mouseover the Dalek pictures, by the way, you can see what stories they come from.)
--***Stardizzy*** 21:14, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thx.--Si 12:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

errrr....is the Cybermen hierarchy Cyber-controller, Cyberleader then cybermen or is their more?--Si 12:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

better start another page to ask that question. if you ask it here, it will get lost and doesn't belong here anyway (remember, Daleks and Cybermen don't tend to get along!) --***Stardizzy*** 12:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Davros's place in the hierarchy[[edit source]]

Oh and where does Davros come into the Hierarchy?--Si 12:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

well, I just would like to reiterate, Dalek hierarchy depends on the story and the writer. as far as Davros, some Daleks have followed him, others have hated him.
in Destiny of the Daleks (the first "modern" Davros story, the first one took place during the Creation of the Daleks) they obeyed him without question. in Resurrection of the Daleks they had a love-hate relationship which by the end of the story had devolved into Davros's side versus the Supreme Dalek's side. Revelation of the Daleks had the sma situation. (I don't remember if that story ever mentioned the Dalek Emperor but if it did, Davros would have opposed him.) Davros took over as Dalek Emperor in a comics story entitled Emperor of the Daleks!. By Remembrance of the Daleks Davros led the Imperial Daleks in opposition to the Renegade Daleks (the gray daleks loyal to the Supreme Daleks).
Davros appeared in an audio story called Terror Firma featuring the Eighth Doctor as Emperor. he appeared in another adudio story called The Juggernauts. I haven't listened to thes audio stories and only know what I have read about them on Wikipedia, so no comment.
John Peel made, in War of the Daleks and Legacy of the Daleks (which, again, I only know second-hand, through the web) that Davros had a relatively minor profile and hadn't as much power as he seemd to have. basically, John Peel didn't like how certain later television stories had gone and decided to "explain them away".--***Stardizzy*** 12:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Remembrance of the Daleks[[edit source]]

What was the hierachy during the Remembrance of the Daleks From Davros' "govement". He was the emporer. we had the special wepon dalek and the imperial dalek and what else? and who was higher in the hierarchy? special wepon or imperial. and is this Dalek Imerial or Regenade. Theese are the last questions i need. thx--Si 14:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Davros' Daleks called themselves the Imperial Daleks and if you look at the entry you can see what they looked like. he had lots of Imperial Daleks, not just one. no one knows if he had other Special Weapons Daleks other than the one. (read the entry, though.) the anti-Davros faction, the Renegade Daleks and they had a gray and black color scheme. (I haven't gotten around to making that entry, sorry.) the novelization presents the Special Weapons Dalek as something of a freak (again, see entry) so he wouldn't have a large place in Davros' hierarchy. not higher than the Imperials, possibly lower. --***Stardizzy*** 14:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)