Talk:'Twas the Night Before Christmas (webcast)

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Prose stories do not have "Cast". How is this published? By whom? Amorkuz ☎ 05:41, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Agreed tbh. I would have called it a webcast myself. TheFatPanda ☎ 05:55, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Ditto. It's a narrated poem with animation, released on the BBC Youtube channel. (Slight down-scaling, as far as Christmas specials go, but I'll take it.) – N8 ☎ 05:56, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that it should be moved to (webcast) instead. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 07:06, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

If these pages gets merged, I highly recommend this page's info be moved there as well, as the current info on the other page seems like a mess to me. --DCLM ☎ 09:12, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

That is the definition of merge. All info from both pages is combined (in a coherent manner) on one page. The other page was, in fact, blanked out by its creator, which is a wrong thing to do. It might contain valuable information not present here. And admin will surely get to it at some point. Meanwhile, is there any reason not to merge it to a webcast page? Amorkuz ☎ 09:29, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I don't see any. When I created the page I just thought it fitted as a short story. --DCLM ☎ 09:36, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Just for the record, we defined short stories (in a thread I will look for later as I don't have time right now) as prose that is included in an anthology. Keep that in mind in the future when choosing media. Shambala108 ☎ 15:43, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

What about stories published in magazines, for example? JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 16:44, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I'll leave it to Shambala108 to find the relevant discussion: no one knows the sources of the wiki lore better than her. But having read her explanation, I finally understood where the confusion stemmed from. A "short story" in our parlance is not any story that is short. Audio stories, TV stories, comic stories, webcasts are never classified as "short stories". As Shambala108 explained, "short stories" are exclusively prose stories. However, unlike any other medium, prose stories are further divided into "novels" and "short stories". In order to simplify the classification, we use a very simple criterion. If the story occupies the whole bound volume, it is a "novel". In particular, even short children's stories like Dr. Thirteenth are novels. If, on the other hand, there are other things within the same bound volume, be they prose stories, comics, non-fiction, or anything else really, then this is a "short story". Indeed, anthologies containing multiple short stories are a typical occurrence, e.g., The Tramp's Story within the anthology Short Trips: Repercussions. However, the short story Cultural Firsts was published in an issue of Torchwood The Official Magazine. In fact, there is even the short story Christmas Special that was published online rather than in a bound volume. So the rule is: if there is a bound volume containing only this story, it's a "novel". In all other cases, a prose story is a "short story".

Phew, this short explanation is almost a story in its own right. Hope you find it sufficiently novel. Amorkuz ☎ 17:29, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, first of all, I have discovered today that we have over 800 forum threads just in Board:The Matrix Archives alone - that's a lot of threads to search!

Anyway, Mr Men stories: novels or short stories restates the position given by User:CzechOut at Talk:Time and Relative (novel). This, incidentally, also answers the question about stories in magazines. They are not stand-alone, so they're short stories.

And bravo User:Amorkuz for the pun. Shambala108 ☎ 02:05, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

I moved the information from this page to the correctly dabbed page. There was nothing on the page that this page didn't have, but lots on this page that wasn't on the other. --DCLM ☎ 18:25, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Are they to be merged, or?? --DCLM ☎ 10:38, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, just let me find a sufficiently spare evening. Merging requires a modicum of concentration. Amorkuz ☎ 10:57, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Right. Was not aware of that. :) --DCLM ☎ 12:25, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, it's done. Please give it one last once over. Amorkuz ☎ 14:30, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Santa

Does anyone have any idea who provided the voice for Santa Claus in this mini story? --DCLM ☎ 13:17, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Where were the other actors spurced from? Amorkuz ☎ 13:27, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Idk. I guess you could hear it on the voices themselves. The only one I added myself was Jodie. --DCLM ☎ 13:31, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Source for Bradley Walsh being the narrator: https://www.blogtorwho.com/video-twas-the-night-before-christmas-a-doctor-who-christmas-poem/ JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 14:46, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Uncredited cast

Moving uncredited cast here until it can be properly sourced. Shambala108 ☎ 01:27, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

• Sophie Raworth - Herself