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:: Yeah, I'm with Boris on this one. The [[wikipedia:epistolary novel|epistolary novel]] (a book made up of a succession of increasingly connected letters from various characters within the diegesis) is an established literary form, and doesn't mean the various "collected texts" are short stories in their own right. Is Bram Stoker's ''Dracula'' an anthology now? --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:03, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
:: Yeah, I'm with Boris on this one. The [[wikipedia:epistolary novel|epistolary novel]] (a book made up of a succession of increasingly connected letters from various characters within the diegesis) is an established literary form, and doesn't mean the various "collected texts" are short stories in their own right. Is Bram Stoker's ''Dracula'' an anthology now? --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:03, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
:Boris, you are not an admin - putting across your opinion is fine but stating that I should not have done something is not your job. All of these instalments are individual stories, just like Brief Encounters / the Blogs of Doom. And as for you, Scrooge, how are any of these letters “increasingly connected”? They are all standalone. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:07, July 18, 2020 (UTC)
:Boris, you are not an admin - putting across your opinion is fine but stating that I should not have done something is not your job. All of these instalments are individual stories, just like Brief Encounters / the Blogs of Doom. And as for you, Scrooge, how are any of these letters “increasingly connected”? They are all standalone. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:07, July 18, 2020 (UTC)
::It's not Boris's job to forbid you from doing something, but surely advice isn't prohibited. Pointing out what [[T:BOUND]] says is not the same thing as trying to enforce it, and the fact is, T:BOUND states pretty clearly that you can't both open a discussion about something ''and'' already start making edits based on one of the proposals in that discussion.
::As for the "connected" phrase, I was referring to the general definition of an epistolary novel, not making a definitive statements about ''The Time Lord Letters'' itself. It ''seems'' to me like the whole is meant to be greater than the sum of its parts — drawing up a general portrait of the Doctor and their life through a series of snapshots.
::I also dispute that it's the same thing ''Brief Encounters'' and ''The Blogs of Doom'', in that those were series with individual installments released months or even years apart, and by different authors. By contrast, ''The Time Lord Letters'' has not, to my knowledge, been released as anything else than a whole object. That doesn't mean it can't be an anthology — but ''BE'' and ''TBoD'' are not, I think, the closest precedents you could find. To play devil's advocate against my own position, I'd say you'd be better off looking at something like ''[[The Book of the Peace (anthology)|The Book of the Peace]]'' with its "[[Pre-narrative Briefings (short story)|briefing segment]]" interludes. And even that's not quite right for the kind of thing you're arguing that ''Time Lord Letters'' is. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:15, July 18, 2020 (UTC)

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This release is an anthology, rather than a novel, as it is a collection of short stories in the form of letters and writings by the Doctor. Each short story deserves a page of its own - similar to Brief Encounter and The Blogs of Doom. Xx-connor-xX 11:11, July 6, 2020 (UTC)

You should not have created The Slow Path... without discussion. I don't have the book on me right now but from memory I'm not entirely convinced that some of the letters would pass rule 1 if we classified them separately. --Borisashton 15:14, July 6, 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm with Boris on this one. The epistolary novel (a book made up of a succession of increasingly connected letters from various characters within the diegesis) is an established literary form, and doesn't mean the various "collected texts" are short stories in their own right. Is Bram Stoker's Dracula an anthology now? --Scrooge MacDuck 23:03, July 17, 2020 (UTC)
Boris, you are not an admin - putting across your opinion is fine but stating that I should not have done something is not your job. All of these instalments are individual stories, just like Brief Encounters / the Blogs of Doom. And as for you, Scrooge, how are any of these letters “increasingly connected”? They are all standalone. Xx-connor-xX 00:07, July 18, 2020 (UTC)
It's not Boris's job to forbid you from doing something, but surely advice isn't prohibited. Pointing out what T:BOUND says is not the same thing as trying to enforce it, and the fact is, T:BOUND states pretty clearly that you can't both open a discussion about something and already start making edits based on one of the proposals in that discussion.
As for the "connected" phrase, I was referring to the general definition of an epistolary novel, not making a definitive statements about The Time Lord Letters itself. It seems to me like the whole is meant to be greater than the sum of its parts — drawing up a general portrait of the Doctor and their life through a series of snapshots.
I also dispute that it's the same thing Brief Encounters and The Blogs of Doom, in that those were series with individual installments released months or even years apart, and by different authors. By contrast, The Time Lord Letters has not, to my knowledge, been released as anything else than a whole object. That doesn't mean it can't be an anthology — but BE and TBoD are not, I think, the closest precedents you could find. To play devil's advocate against my own position, I'd say you'd be better off looking at something like The Book of the Peace with its "briefing segment" interludes. And even that's not quite right for the kind of thing you're arguing that Time Lord Letters is. --Scrooge MacDuck 00:15, July 18, 2020 (UTC)