Talk:The Doctor's species

Merge

Both this page and Timeless Child's species are on the same topic. Timeless Child species is also somewhat more a neutral title than 'the Doctor's species', as the beginninsg of its species are not 'the Doctor' or that individual. Timeless Child is a better less weighted term for the species. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:14, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

I think you saw the earlier version of the page at The Doctor's species, which is indeed similar to Timeless Child's species, since User:SOTO moved the contents of the former to the latter.

The current form of the page, however, is intended to be of apiece with The Doctor's age and The Doctor's early life: it's not a page about the unnamed species purported by one specific account (The Timeless Children) to be the Doctor's true birth species, but rather a hub page to pool all the differing accounts of what the Doctor's species is. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 16:40, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

The Doctor's species is a matter that is by no means agreed upon in all stories. Per T:NPOV, The Timeless Children is not *the* definitive account: other contradictory accounts of the Doctor's origins which completely diverge from this one should have equal weight. Valid sources for the Doctor being fully or of half-human, for instance, do not fit into the same narrative put forward by this latest story. So there is plenty to discuss on a page about the Doctor's species, just as in the two pages Scrooge MacDuck linked to above.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 23:18, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Just A Rant I Guess

I know that continuity... isn't always great, but it really does bug me that this new idea of how Gallifreyans became Time Lords and gained the ability to regenerate is in very direct conflict with basically the entire River Song storyline. (Gallifreyans became Time Lords due to prolonged exposure to The Time Vortex, and River is part Time Lord because she was conceived in The Time Vortex (in The TARDIS).) If you remember, there was that whole revelation The Doctor had: 'No, she can't have been conceived in The TARDIS, her parents (Amy and Rory) wouldn't have had time. We were too busy adventuring. And anyway, technically in this reality, the first time they were ever even in The TARDIS together was on their...' (realisation) Vastra: 'On their what?' The Doctor: (already realised his point is totally null and void and actually proves him wrong and he accepts he's wrong) 'On their wedding night.' I'm pretty sure this is in A Good Man Goes To War (or connected episode?), and by the way this is in no way direct quotes but just how I remember it going down. Point is, she was part Time Lord, she regenerated, and both her parents were definitely human. (Although to be fair I guess you could argue that who knows what those guys did to her.) (Haha, "Don't be fair to the Daleks when they're firing us at a planet!" The Doctor, Asylum Of The Daleks, just something that made me think of, and also just from my memory, but I'm pretty sure this one's at least neary exactly right, when the other thing was just an approximation; general gist.)