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 :::::: Within the narrative ''[[Colour Chameleon (game)|Colour Chameleon]]'' would be considered a game devised by the Doctor for her book; ''[[The Doctor vs the Master (short story)|The Doctor vs the Master]]'' would be considered a conversation with the Master transcribed ''for her book''; ''[[Zellin's Nightmare World (game)|Zellin's Nightmare World]]'' would be considered a spot-the-difference game made by the Doctor '''for her book'''. None of this is invalid when taken under the intended framework that it is a book written by the Doctor for some intended reader (we can't speculate as to whom) to read if she gets stuck in somewhere like the [[Dog dimension]]. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:05, November 4, 2020 (UTC)
+: Look, guys, the thing is, you have to apply some common sense here. Almost ''every'' annual has a framing device of some kind. Last year's did. [[Doctor Who The Official Annual 2016]] does. [[The Dalek Outer Space Book]] does (that's even [[Thread:217351|part of the reason]] for the validity of [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Sea Monsters (comic story)|The Sea Monsters]]''). The 2021 Annual isn't some kind of weird exception.
+: What you are proposing would be a fundamental change to how we cover nearly ''every'' annual, proposing to redefine them as weird atypical "novels", most of which would now have to be invalid. We're talking dozens if not hundreds of story page merges here, and to achieve a result completely unlike what ''any'' sane reader of the Wiki would expect.
+: I would call your attention to anthologies with a framing device. ''[[The Book of the Enemy (anthology)|The Book of the Enemy]]'' or ''[[Short Trips: Zodiac]]'' aren't considered novels, even though they both have "framing devices" — and indeed, ''valid'' ones, which we account for as their own short stories! Much as TV series can have story arcs across several episodes, one short story in an anthology/annual positing a framing device does ''not'' necessarily mean we have to cover it all as one story.
+: But when parts of the "anthology" are invalid, that only works if the framing device can be separated from the things it frames, and considered its own short story. That's the case in ''Zodiac'', but it's not the case in ''The Incomplete Death's Head'' and it's not the case in Annuals. Not because the comic stories, games, short stories, etc. in an Annual aren't stories in their own right — but because ''the framing device around them'' doesn't stand up as a story in its own right.
+: In short you are proposing a fundamental, and I think reckless, change to how we cover dozens of anthologies and annuals. It would absolutely ''demand'' a Panopticon thread before any action could be taken, and I don't think that Panopticon thread would lead much of anywhere for the common-sense reasons I stated above. ''[[The Pest of Paternoster Row (short story)|The Pest of Paternoster Row]]'' and ''[[Zorgo the Terrible (comic story)|Zorgo the Terrible]]'' are just ''not the same story'', regardless of what ''[[I'm The Doctor! (short story)|I'm The Doctor!]]'' says. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:12, November 4, 2020 (UTC)