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I have linked the video at [[Tardis talk:Video recommendations]] if anyone wants to see the story for themselves. [[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC) | I have linked the video at [[Tardis talk:Video recommendations]] if anyone wants to see the story for themselves. [[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
:Yes! Fair enough. The only ''slight'' difference I can find between the two situations is that the YouTube upload of ''The Doctor Appears'' explicitly credits [[Matt Smith]] as playing [[The Doctor|Doctor Who]], whereas the corresponding phrasing for ''The Doctor Drops In'' is "''Doctor Who'' star Matt Smith materialises for a special appearance". So ''arguably'', this could be argued to be the same situation as Matt Smith's appearance in ''[[Doctor Who at the Proms (2013)|Doctor Who at the Proms]]'' in 2013. | |||
:However, just because it ''could be argued'' doesn't mean they'd be ''right'' to argue thusly. For one thing, Smith eventually breaks character in ''Doctor Who at the Proms'', whereas the title and script of ''The Doctor Drops In'' unfailingly treat him as "the Doctor", a time traveler; it's ''only'' the retrospective YouTube description that raises any doubt that this is the Doctor rather than Smith. Secondly, '''just because it ''could be argued'' doesn't mean it ''has'' been argued'''. | |||
:As per [[Tardis:Valid sources]] (emphasis mine): | |||
{{quote|If a story was intended to be set outside the DWU, then it's probably not allowed. But '''a community discussion''' will likely be '''needed''' to make a final determination.|T:VS}} | |||
:This is certainly not a straightforward "nobody could possibly argue…" sort of case, so a community discussion ''would'' be needed if anyone wanted to invalidate it. As I pointed out at [[Talk:The Doctor Appears (TV story)]], it would be problematic for ''an admin'' to make an arbitrary decision in these matters, let alone an anonymous IP user from years ago. | |||
:For additional details, please refer back to the other talk page. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Invalidity
I believe this story should be valid for the same reasons that were discussed at Talk:The Doctor Appears (TV story). This page was created and invalidated by the same user as that one and has a similar level of acknowledgement of Doctor Who as an in-universe thing as that one.
I have linked the video at Tardis talk:Video recommendations if anyone wants to see the story for themselves. Borisashton ☎ 01:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes! Fair enough. The only slight difference I can find between the two situations is that the YouTube upload of The Doctor Appears explicitly credits Matt Smith as playing Doctor Who, whereas the corresponding phrasing for The Doctor Drops In is "Doctor Who star Matt Smith materialises for a special appearance". So arguably, this could be argued to be the same situation as Matt Smith's appearance in Doctor Who at the Proms in 2013.
- However, just because it could be argued doesn't mean they'd be right to argue thusly. For one thing, Smith eventually breaks character in Doctor Who at the Proms, whereas the title and script of The Doctor Drops In unfailingly treat him as "the Doctor", a time traveler; it's only the retrospective YouTube description that raises any doubt that this is the Doctor rather than Smith. Secondly, just because it could be argued doesn't mean it has been argued.
- As per Tardis:Valid sources (emphasis mine):
If a story was intended to be set outside the DWU, then it's probably not allowed. But a community discussion will likely be needed to make a final determination.
- This is certainly not a straightforward "nobody could possibly argue…" sort of case, so a community discussion would be needed if anyone wanted to invalidate it. As I pointed out at Talk:The Doctor Appears (TV story), it would be problematic for an admin to make an arbitrary decision in these matters, let alone an anonymous IP user from years ago.
- For additional details, please refer back to the other talk page. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 13:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
