Talk:Martha Jones/Archive 1

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In the Christmas Invasion, Jackie says she got those - er forgot what they're called (lol) from 'Tina, she's got this lodger, medical student.' I just wondered, What if that was Martha? Tried finding reference on here but no luck so far... meh. - AlexMcpherson

Doubt it. The thing was man-sized pyjamas and I'm pretty sure Martha isn't a man. -<Azes13 16:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

>_> Pay attention to the episode, it was a stethoscope(SP?) That she got from "Tina the Cleaner", and she got the pyjamas from HOWARD.

Also dosn't martha have her own place re:sound of drums Assassin of death 14:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

There is no proof that Tina's lodger is Martha, wouldn't Jackie recognise her in Journey's End? Anyway, Martha owns an apartment. Just because she's a medical student doesn't mean she's Martha. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 23:08, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Quick one her honeymoon during the 456 incidence could have been with Mickey it was never stated it was with Tom

Martha Smith-Jones

That's how she's credited at the end: Martha Smith-Jones. --Golden Monkey 20:56, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yep and thats what Russell T Davies noted on the commentary for it, which for anyone doubting this should be considered canon as he wrote this ep. 22:32 January 1, 2010 (GMT)

• Commentary does not mean canon -- otherwise you have to dismiss the Jack Harness-as-Face of Boe revelation because RTD said he wasn't Boe in a commentary. The fact she is credited under this name is what counts. 23skidoo 15:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
• She is also credited as this in the script (avaliable on the writers tale website) lottie01 22:35, January 17, 2010 (UTC)lottie01

Mickey

Since when did Mickey get married to Martha and run away with her to become a freelance alien fighter. I haven't seen The End of Time, but is this just speculation of Episode Two, because if it is remove it. Last time I checked, Martha was engaged to Tom Milligan. Where did this info come from? I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 22:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC) I have no idea it was never fully explained but she was only engaged to Tom not married so she could have called it off after the events of Journey's End and then by the time Childred of Earth came round she could have married Mickey and been on her honeymoon Rhysy54 22:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC) Its correct you have to watch the End of Time Part Two

Mickey and Martha fell in love in Torchwood/UNIT. She broke it off with Tom Milligan. To be honest, I never liked their relationship. I mean, how did they meet in the "real" timeline, as Milligan never remembered her? --Golden Monkey 22:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

• • This was explained in Last of the Time Lords, when Martha sought him out and initiated the relationship. 23skidoo 17:09, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The honeymoon

People are making assumptions not supported by dialogue or on-screen evidence or spin-off media. All we know is that Martha was on her honeymoon at the time of Children of Earth. We don't know if that was with Tom or with Mickey. People do divorce. There is nothing in The End of Time to suggest when the Martha-Mickey scene takes place. Both look older - it could take place 10 years in the future; remember that the Doctor goes back more than 5 years to see Rose. All we can say is that she either broke up with or divorced Milligan, and then took up with Mickey. Personally I'm of the opinion she divorced Milligan because Jack would have likely referenced Mickey. But I can't put that supposition into the article unless it ends up in an episode or a licensed novel or other fiction. In fact if it comes down to it, we can't say for certain she divorced Tom. For all we know he might have been killed during some adventure after which she turned to Mickey for comfort. There's plenty of wiggle-room here. 23skidoo 17:15, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

According to RTD, Milligan was the rebound, and they did not marry. Her honeymoon was with Mickey in Children of Earth. -- Will101 18:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

• • Which is all fine in behind-the-scenes commentary. It's what's on screen that we need to pay attention to. According to RTD commentary, Jack is not the Face of Boe, either. 23skidoo 05:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Remember though, RTD wrote the episode, not you. He should know, he's a writer.

If it's not stated in-universe, it's not established. Russell has his intentions and behind-the-scenes commentary, as did other authors before him, but until he puts it on screen, it's not a definite. Other authors and producers intended things like the Master being the Doctor's brother, but the fact they never put it into an episode means we don't have to accept it as established continuity. Truth is we don't know what happened between Martha and Tom, then Martha and Mickey - just that eventually, she and Mickey were married. Spreee 19:08, October 5, 2010 (UTC)Spreee

Martha's actor in an earlier episode.

Hi all I was just wondering what the deal was with Martha's actor (Freema Agyeman) coming back on to the doctor who scene when she played Adeola Oshodi in the episode "Army of Ghosts". And if I recall correctly she died in that episode. Just wondering, thanks guys.

Diffrent chareactor, her cousin I think. (Smith and Jones) OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 16:15, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Other information

• Martha was fluent in German although she spoke it with a noticeable English accent (TV: Journey's End).
• Martha was UNIT number 56671. (TV: Journey's End)
• Martha had a particular fondness for milkshakes and early in her travels with the Doctor she asked him to help her find the ultimate milkshake. (COMIC: Agent Provocateur; COMIC: Black Death White Life).

The above information needs to be merged into the article. It should not be placed under an 'Other information' heading. MM/Want to talk? 23:41, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I think that the note about her using the alias Samantha Jones in Reset is worth including in the article too (somewhere beyond the infobox, that is, and with a bit of explanation about why that name is noteworthy). —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 04:11, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Death of the Doctor

In Sarah Janes Adventures episode "Death of the Doctor" the fake funeral only invited Unit members who were close to the Doctor. Hence, Sarah Jane and Jo Grant arrived, yet where was Martha?

You can't say because "She left Unit and went freelance" because Jo Grant left unit way way before she did and she was still allowed to come.

I'm assuming this was because Freema was contracted to a rival company at this point so she wasn't allowed back on BBC. Sad, but is that the reason?

Moogleknight24 ^{talk to me} 11:28, July 13, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24

The reason she wasn't there was probably that she didn't need to be. The point of the episode was to remember the classic series, not to loath in the new series. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 17:19, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Needed to be or not, I am a sucker for continuity. There was no reason she couldn't have just sat in the background, but then again the Brigadier wasn't there either. Moogleknight24 ^{talk to me} 22:25, July 13, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24