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How do we know that this color's name is the same as the DWU? I mean to say, is this color actually mentioned '''by name''' in the cited sources? If not, then shouldn't this page be deleted? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC) | How do we know that this color's name is the same as the DWU? I mean to say, is this color actually mentioned '''by name''' in the cited sources? If not, then shouldn't this page be deleted? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
:I'm not sure. There is ample precedent that for "common items", we don't necessarily need a DWU source for the name, so long as they clearly appear on-screen. For example, if the Doctor is seen wearing a [[hat]], we don't need to have a specific source for the ''word'' "hat". By the same token, I don't think we need a source for the word [[green]] to be able to write about the colour. (Although we'd need a {{tlx|Conjecture}} tag.) | |||
:That being said, the precedent also goes that we don't deal in ''specifics''. Anyone can see that a given object is a [[tank]], and that the Eighth Doctor's coat is [[green]] — but specific ''types'' of tank are not things that the average viewer is expected to know, so we don't push the conjecture that far. Is "olive" a sufficiently well-known colour? That is the question. | |||
:I agree these pages are a bit dubious — but I don't think (if you'll forgive the colour pun) that the situation is black-and-white. It's probably something we should have a thread about, once we have Forums again. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:15, 13 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Is this page necessary
How do we know that this color's name is the same as the DWU? I mean to say, is this color actually mentioned by name in the cited sources? If not, then shouldn't this page be deleted? Shambala108 ☎ 23:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. There is ample precedent that for "common items", we don't necessarily need a DWU source for the name, so long as they clearly appear on-screen. For example, if the Doctor is seen wearing a hat, we don't need to have a specific source for the word "hat". By the same token, I don't think we need a source for the word green to be able to write about the colour. (Although we'd need a {{Conjecture}} tag.)
- That being said, the precedent also goes that we don't deal in specifics. Anyone can see that a given object is a tank, and that the Eighth Doctor's coat is green — but specific types of tank are not things that the average viewer is expected to know, so we don't push the conjecture that far. Is "olive" a sufficiently well-known colour? That is the question.
- I agree these pages are a bit dubious — but I don't think (if you'll forgive the colour pun) that the situation is black-and-white. It's probably something we should have a thread about, once we have Forums again. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 23:15, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
