Talk:Journey into Time (unreleased audio story)

Hi, just a minor reply to the statement that there has never been a character in Doctor Who known as "Mike." Captain Mike Yates was a recurring character during the Pertwee-UNIT era (also Rose's boyfriend in C21 Doctor Who is "Mickey.")

Although, it seems unlikely that either character would be featured in an adventure set in 19th Century America. (It would be a fun fan-fiction foray if they were, however.)

Djer ☎ 08:15, January 13, 2014 (UTC)Djer

Why is this connected to "Dr. Who"?

It certainly is clear from the sources that Cushing was to be the lead in this radioplay, but why have we connected it to the incarnation from the Dalek films? Nothing in the script as published in Bignell's magazine suggests this, and it does rather set things up in an alternate direction. And to even cite this page itself "it's decidedly certain that he would not actually have been playing the same version of the character in this series." - so I'm just curious as to what people think. Personally, I think we would be more accurate and better served by creating a section on Cushing's page about this produced but ultimately never released portrayal, and redirecting to that for the incarnation links here. JDPManjoume ☎ 13:50, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Hm. Well, certainly it's not quite the same Doctor as in Dr. Who and the Daleks.

But it really must be highlighted that although you can squeeze them into one continuity, it's also difficult not to notice, if you approach it with an open mind, that the Dr Who in Daleks' Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. seems to be from a completely different universe to the one in the first movie. The Dr. Who and the Daleks Cushing Doctor is a respectable citizen of the 20th century, a law-abiding "pottering professor" type. He has two granddaughters. The Daleks' Invasion Cushing Doctor appears to be a drifted in Time and Space alongside his single granddaughter and his unearthly-seeming niece; he seems to want to avoid detection by 20th century authorities, such that he kidnaps Tom Campbell, Hartnell-in-An-Unearthly-Child-style, at the mere approach of the police. And then, of course, there is the fact that the TARDIS control room looks completely different with no explanation.

Is the Journey into Time rendition of the Cushing Doctor really that much more different, then, from the variance already in evidence within his other appearances? More to the point, is this difference greater than that which exists between the Hartnell Doctor in An Unearthly Child, the Hartnell Doctor in Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks, and the Hartnell Doctor in Who is Dr Who?? Generally, our policy has been to separate Doctor by apparent incarnation, not by "continuity", except for things specifically ruled to take place in a parallel universe or to fail Rule 4.

Mind you, it's not been proven that Journey Into Time fails Rule 4; it appears to be {{invalid}} simply because it fails T:OFF REL. I could see an argument that it really just features a typical 1960s EU version of the First Doctor, just recast for convenience's sake with an actor who happens to also have portrayed his own Doctor in other production. (There is a precedent for that.) Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 13:59, 26 March 2021 (UTC)