Talk:Irving Braxiatel

Needs to be in-universe

This article is great, very well written... Except it needs to be re-written so it is in-universe. It also needs a wiki reference as it appears to have been copied straight from wikipedia. --Tangerineduel 14:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Placement of ranges

Are we sure that the Gallifrey series stories occur before the Benny ones? just seems wierd that if it is the last great time war then brax wont be around to be in the benny stories. Revanvolatrelundar 19:04, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple Braxs

The end of the latest Benny season established there are in fact multiple Braxiatels; including, but not limited to:

• Braxiatel from the Benny series, who is known to be the Brax in Happy Endings and the Bernice Summerfield series up to his death in Escaping the Future.
• Braxiatel from the Gallifrey series, who appeared in Zagreus through to Disassembled, one scene in Dragons' Wrath, and at the end of Epoch.

Stories we don't know which Braxiatel

• Theatre of War (could be either (or another entirely), as both have met Benny, might have been completely negated by Braxiatel's time meddling as the collection exists long in the future)
• Empire of Glass

This obviously calls for some changes to the page, or possibly the creation of multiple pages for the different versions. TemporalSpleen ^{talk to me} 18:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just to note that it is the same incarnation that appears in the audio plays. Also, I haven't read the books, but are they different incarnations? or are they the same one? --Revan\Talk 19:24, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

It's been the same incarnation all the times he's met Benny (as the flashbacks in The Wake confirmed). For Empire of Glass, it could be a different (earlier) incarnation. TemporalSpleen ^{talk to me} 20:06, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Right okay then, so that just leaves two incarnations of Brax. And, as per the discussion about River Song, we don't create incarnation pages when the other incarnations have made few appearances or are extremely unlikely to make more. Perhaps in a few years time, Miles Richardson may become tired of playing Brax and someone else will play a new incarnaion. Until such a time I would say that we keep everything here, it's not like the page is that overcrowded with info anyway. --Revan\Talk 20:13, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Infobox

I was editing the infobox, and I can't get the formatting to work.--104.32.214.184^{talk to me} 02:42, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've cleaned it up. The "first" variable takes just the page name and automatically links it, so you don't need the square brackets. P&P talk contribs 02:49, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I haven't really used the infoboxes much.--104.32.214.184^{talk to me} 02:51, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

The Doctor

Should the Doctor now be listed as Irving's sister following the most recent regeneration? --BenMoore512 16:00,January 20th, 2018 (UTC)

It'd be great if Template:Infobox Individual could be edited to replace the "Brothers" and "Sisters" boxes with a more inclusive "Siblings". – N8 ☎ 19:17, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

The Braxes

So there are at least two versions of Braxiatel:

• The Gallifrey Brax (of Gallifrey) who met Benny at the end of Disassembled and appeared in the Bernice Summerfield box sets, keeping his distance from his other self before deciding to return to his homeworld, presumably in Intervention Earth.
• The Collection Brax (of Bernice Summerfield) who first met Benny in Dragons' Wrath and was left with an uncertain fate in Escaping the Future, Miles Richardson describing him as "elsewhere" in Vortex 43.

I've made an attempt to separate these iterations more clearly as the page jumped from one to the other. It might be imperfect and I'd appreciate some feedback from other users who are familiar with the character. I haven't yet moved the creation of the Collection but it's something that was done prior to Gallifrey and remembered by that Brax, so it probably belongs before the separation. -- Saxon (✉️) 17:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

The wording seems unclear to me and I'm unfamiliar with some facets of recent Big Finish continuity. Are you saying that the so-called "Gallifrey Brax" and "Collection Brax" are two different incarnations of the Time Lord? That they are two different version of the same character from two parallel timelines? Or that these are two stages in the linear lifetime of a single incarnation? Those three situations would warrant very different edits to the page. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 18:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

It's option #3... and/or option #1, as Brax is good at regenerating without changing his appearance. – N8 (☎/👁️) 18:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Loss of Sister/Daughter

Sorry I neglected to cover this in the edit description, but in Tears of the Oracle, the line cited as Brax claiming to have lost a sister or daughter is just him likening Benny to a sister or daughter by comparing what losing her would feel like. He is not referring to a literal sister or daughter, but claiming that losing Benny would be like losing either of the aforementioned family members.