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Right to kind of settle both arguments. Right now I think she may be neither Time-Lord or Human as nothing has really been confirmed and even though you Delton recall moffat and/or alex kingston refering to her as human this could mean anything inprevious stories they could be refering her to act human or look human doesn't neccesseeraly mean she is human and she may or may not be time lord because maybe the machine that killed her killed her to much for her regeneration kicked in like she said to the doctor about it burning up his hearts and him dying so we don't actually know if she is timelord or human. Time will tell and maybe we will get a result on saturday. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 16:01, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
Right to kind of settle both arguments. Right now I think she may be neither Time-Lord or Human as nothing has really been confirmed and even though you Delton recall moffat and/or alex kingston refering to her as human this could mean anything inprevious stories they could be refering her to act human or look human doesn't neccesseeraly mean she is human and she may or may not be time lord because maybe the machine that killed her killed her to much for her regeneration kicked in like she said to the doctor about it burning up his hearts and him dying so we don't actually know if she is timelord or human. Time will tell and maybe we will get a result on saturday. -- [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 16:01, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
The fact that she physically "died" in Forest may not be indicative of her status as a native Gallifreyen.  According to the section on time lords, only Time Lords who graduate from the Academy and receive the Rasillion Imprintur get the ability to regenerate and bond with a TARDIS.  Regular natives of Gallifrey have a single heart and no ability to regenerate.  Maybe River Song is actually the Doctor's daughter from a future liasion and that's why he had to give her his name - he's her parent!  As for the theory of being a Time Agent, that's feasible.  However, both Jack Harkness and John Hart wore their Vortex Manipulators - where is hers?--''ReTardis''

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Occam's Razor - the reason that River Song knows the Doctor's true name, can drive the TARDIS, bounces through the timeline and has esoteric general knowledge of places/people is because she's not human - she could be a Time Lord or refugee from the time-locked Galifrey. Anyone care to discuss or refute?--ReTardis

She is a human Time Traveler, who at some point in her timeline, met a man called the Doctor. The full extent of their relationship is unknown, but clearly she is fascinated by him. She's no ordinary woman, that's for sure. She knows how to fly the TARDIS because she has traveled with him before, they have a history. But the Eleventh Doctor hasn't got ti that point in his timeline yet. A Time Traveler from the 51st century? Oh, sounds family - human Time Agents. But something happened between her and the Doctor clearly, which is part of the mystery. Don't push your look, the Time Lords are gone. She's a very mysterious human with a history with the Doctor. Just because she has a relationship of some bizzare sorts with the Doctor, doesn't make her a Time Lord. The weird nature of her knowledge stems from the fact that she can Time Travel (note: in the 51st century where she came from, humans did Time Travel) to any point and interact with any incarnation of the Doctor that she wants, gaining information from each one. She is, in a sense, studying him. Delton Menace 15:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily - at no point does she identify herself as human in either Silence or Forest. There's not enough info in the trailers to make that call on her species yet. She's got a "mysterious" history, yes, but there are a lot of different types of relationships outside marriage that a name and affection would have to be revealed - a birth for example....ReTardis

I do recall Moffat or Alex Kingston refering to her as human when reading about her in my TV guide in some interview. Plus, she died in FForest of the Dead, not regenerate. Delton Menace 15:54, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Right to kind of settle both arguments. Right now I think she may be neither Time-Lord or Human as nothing has really been confirmed and even though you Delton recall moffat and/or alex kingston refering to her as human this could mean anything inprevious stories they could be refering her to act human or look human doesn't neccesseeraly mean she is human and she may or may not be time lord because maybe the machine that killed her killed her to much for her regeneration kicked in like she said to the doctor about it burning up his hearts and him dying so we don't actually know if she is timelord or human. Time will tell and maybe we will get a result on saturday. -- Michael Downey 16:01, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The fact that she physically "died" in Forest may not be indicative of her status as a native Gallifreyen. According to the section on time lords, only Time Lords who graduate from the Academy and receive the Rasillion Imprintur get the ability to regenerate and bond with a TARDIS. Regular natives of Gallifrey have a single heart and no ability to regenerate. Maybe River Song is actually the Doctor's daughter from a future liasion and that's why he had to give her his name - he's her parent! As for the theory of being a Time Agent, that's feasible. However, both Jack Harkness and John Hart wore their Vortex Manipulators - where is hers?--ReTardis