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 ::::This is ''precisely'' the thing that he suspected will be discussed in this thread, contra your contention.
 ::::And while I agree that dissent isn't necessary, it's best practice to try to find it imo. It's actively harmed at least one major thread I've been a part of when we failed to seek out dissenting voices. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
+@[[User:Najawin|Najawin]] The difference between this and the Curse of Fatal Death validity issue is that this *is* extremely cut and dry - the vast majority of modern sources and authorial intent refer to the four Classic Masters as distinct iterations - with only about one source sorta suggesting that Delgado and Decayed are the same - and even then, it's established that the Decayed Master is basically distinct due to the mental and physical attacks. There's not really any evidence that could surface that could justify all four Classic Who Masters being justified as the same, the audios have definitively established the four as different incarnations in their own continuity, so that's reason alone to separate them. I think you're coming at this with the assumption that we'll miss something and it'll end up like the Curse of Fatal Death validity debate - but that's a world apart - we're not talking about validity here - we're just asking for the one Master page to be split up in order to make things more user friendly and not a mess. Separating all four makes sense from a user-friendliness level as well as an "That's what the audios establish one". We can address the other accounts that disagree with a "Some Sources say" thing like usual. Additionally, this issue only relates to those four incarnations - what about all the post-Beevers ones, like the War Master and Missy? Looking at this thread, the support for this change is overwhelming - it's clear this is a change that has been sought after for ages - even in the original threads this split was wanted - just at the time it was a lot harder for a number of factors which have since changed. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who'd actually have a strong counter argument for this change - the OP post addresses basically all the original arguments against a split, and, as a Master nerd myself, who knows the ins and outs of this stuff, I can't think of any really reasonable counter-argument against this. It's a change that'd improve the forums for the better and help newer users locate lore on specific iterations of the Master which is currently buried amongst 50 years worth of material they're not looking for. So as I said earlier - the lack of opposition shouldn't stand in the way of enacting this change. [[User:TheSpaghetOutcast|TheSpaghetOutcast]] [[User talk:TheSpaghetOutcast|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:08, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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