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:I’d say it’s pretty obvious when the source is right next to the name, which makes that the valid name. As far as I can tell “Black Sun War” was never actually a real name given and just conjecturally given that name due to the Order of the Black Sun being involved. So obviously, yes, there has been a First Great Time War, which, based on the source, is ''this one''. Also, for there to be a [[Last Great Time War]], there has to a ''first''. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
:I’d say it’s pretty obvious when the source is right next to the name, which makes that the valid name. As far as I can tell “Black Sun War” was never actually a real name given and just conjecturally given that name due to the Order of the Black Sun being involved. So obviously, yes, there has been a First Great Time War, which, based on the source, is ''this one''. Also, for there to be a [[Last Great Time War]], there has to a ''first''. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
::can you please say which page of the Dalek Combat manual you can find reference to this war and the fact that it is called the First Great Time War. And like I said if there must be a first then the Yssgaroth war is far closer to being the First Great Time War. And also there does not have to be a first, time travel is present in a Time War allowing you to start a time war before the first? Now please do inform of the page number.[[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
::can you please say which page of the Dalek Combat manual you can find reference to this war and the fact that it is called the First Great Time War. And like I said if there must be a first then the Yssgaroth war is far closer to being the First Great Time War. And also there does not have to be a first, time travel is present in a Time War allowing you to start a time war before the first? Now please do inform of the page number.[[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Clearly any numbering would be from the perspective of The [[Great House]]s, which ''is'' [[First Law of Time|linear]]. I ''believe'' Davies at one point mentioned two earlier time wars as being the ones he thought about and they were completely new, but I can't find the source now that I'm looking for it. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

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Why has the page been renamed? There has never been a conflict called the first Great Time War, this war is the Black Sun War. If the name first great time war had to be applied anywhere (and I don’t think it should) it should be the the Yssgaroth War (aka the Eternal War aka the Vampire War).Anastasia Cousins 20:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I’d say it’s pretty obvious when the source is right next to the name, which makes that the valid name. As far as I can tell “Black Sun War” was never actually a real name given and just conjecturally given that name due to the Order of the Black Sun being involved. So obviously, yes, there has been a First Great Time War, which, based on the source, is this one. Also, for there to be a Last Great Time War, there has to a first. Danniesen 21:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
can you please say which page of the Dalek Combat manual you can find reference to this war and the fact that it is called the First Great Time War. And like I said if there must be a first then the Yssgaroth war is far closer to being the First Great Time War. And also there does not have to be a first, time travel is present in a Time War allowing you to start a time war before the first? Now please do inform of the page number.Anastasia Cousins 09:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Clearly any numbering would be from the perspective of The Great Houses, which is linear. I believe Davies at one point mentioned two earlier time wars as being the ones he thought about and they were completely new, but I can't find the source now that I'm looking for it. Najawin 12:45, 21 January 2023 (UTC)