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* [[Step Into the 80's! (TV story)|Step Into the 80's!]] / [[On Through the 80's! (TV story)|On Through the 80's!]] | * [[Step Into the 80's! (TV story)|Step Into the 80's!]] / [[On Through the 80's! (TV story)|On Through the 80's!]] | ||
* [[Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars (TV story)|Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars]] - This one could be debated, but the story being narrated by Peter Capaldi and ending on the reveal of the Twelfth Doctor makes it more a ''Doctor Who'' story than anyone else in the ad. | * [[Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars (TV story)|Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars]] - This one could be debated, but the story being narrated by Peter Capaldi and ending on the reveal of the Twelfth Doctor makes it more a ''Doctor Who'' story than anyone else in the ad. | ||
* [[CBBC idents]] - This can hopefully be fleshed out with more info? But it sounds like it might qualify | |||
* Any of the Collection trailers... Which are mostly already counted as valid due to some loophole. | |||
==== Webcasts ==== | |||
* [[The Ninth Doctor vs the Cybermen (trailer)|The Ninth Doctor vs the Cybermen]] | |||
* [[Doctor, Doctor, Doctor (webcast)|Doctor, Doctor, Doctor]] - Our judgement on invaliding ''Lego Dimensions'' fell entirely on the game having multiple-path easter eggs. So there's no reason to invalidate the shorts made to tie-into the game. | * [[Doctor, Doctor, Doctor (webcast)|Doctor, Doctor, Doctor]] - Our judgement on invaliding ''Lego Dimensions'' fell entirely on the game having multiple-path easter eggs. So there's no reason to invalidate the shorts made to tie-into the game. | ||
* [[Time Lord Victorious: Trailer (webcast)]] | * [[Time Lord Victorious: Trailer (webcast)]] | ||
* [[Strax Field Report]]s | * [[Strax Field Report]]s | ||
* [[More Than Human... (webcast)]] | * [[More Than Human... (webcast)]] | ||
=== Short stories === | === Short stories === | ||
Revision as of 05:20, 24 February 2023
This is going to be a curated list of potential commercials/advertisements/idents that should be validated in the future, given specific circumstances.
Essentially, advertisements being disqualified for "not being narratives" and thus not fitting Rule 1 should be retired. Thusly, all "advertisements" which are more than just compilations of clips and images should be reconsidered under rule 4: if they are intended to take place in the Doctor Who Universe.
Stories where I'm certain
TV stories
- 2009 BBC Christmas idents - Famous "TARDIS with Reindeer" idents. Calling these commercials is a little iffy in the first place, as I don't think idents are advertisements. Nevertheless, these are TV stories with a narrative going on.
- Step Into the 80's! / On Through the 80's!
- Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars - This one could be debated, but the story being narrated by Peter Capaldi and ending on the reveal of the Twelfth Doctor makes it more a Doctor Who story than anyone else in the ad.
- CBBC idents - This can hopefully be fleshed out with more info? But it sounds like it might qualify
- Any of the Collection trailers... Which are mostly already counted as valid due to some loophole.
Webcasts
- The Ninth Doctor vs the Cybermen
- Doctor, Doctor, Doctor - Our judgement on invaliding Lego Dimensions fell entirely on the game having multiple-path easter eggs. So there's no reason to invalidate the shorts made to tie-into the game.
- Time Lord Victorious: Trailer (webcast)
- Strax Field Reports
- More Than Human... (webcast)
Short stories
- Can I Help You? (short story) - Short story printed on a t-shirt. It could be argued that the story "is a commercial item" since it's printed on a t-shirt. I think stories printed on paper and sold in books are also commercial items.
- The Cult of Skaro (short story)
Comic stories
- Dr Who and the Turgids - Story, at the very least qualifies for R4BP, as the TARDIS tuner has been evoked often in stories.
- On the Icy Edge of the Galaxy...
Audio stories
- Redacted - Presuming none of this appears in Redacted, I think it qualifies
Stories I'm less certain about
- The Trip of a Lifetime and similar trailers, leaning towards valid. No different from Twelve narrating about the Bootstrap paradox.
- Walls' Sky Ray lollies advertisement - Certainly has some story, but I wouldn't describe it as fiction trying to sell something. I'd say it's more like an advertisement with the aesthetics of a piece of fiction. I'm thinking this should invalid, with us using this as a precedent only for ads of this style.
- Famine Appeal - I'm leaning towards non-valid for things like this, but I would have to hear from my peers.
- Christmas Gift Guide: LEGO set - This is lost now, but I recall at the time thinking it shouldn't be valid. Same for the two other Christmas Gift Guides.
- Friend from the Future - I can say with certainty that this should be valid, but I think it would need a stand-alone debate.
Advertisements which do not qualify
- Doctor Who and the Ambassadors of Death (trailer) - this is an important case, as this is essentially a regular trailer showing clips from the next episode, but with some new linking segments. This alone does not make it qualify for rule 1, let alone rule 4.
- Denys Fisher Toys Advert
- BBC Choice ident - was clearly not intended to fit into the DWU
- It's Showtime (2012 BBC Christmas ident)
- Consider Yourself One Of Us... (2011 BBC Christmas ident)
- Everyone's Home For Christmas (2011 BBC Christmas ident)
- 2016 BBC Christmas ident
- 2014 BBC Christmas ident
- 2010 BBC Christmas ident
