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 :: The script makes it super clear that “The Master-Doctor” is a distinct being from both the Doctor and the Master. Dhawan’s role changes in the script. Point is. If Chibnall considers them distinct enough from the Master and the Doctor then the wiki should. I’d say “The Master-Doctor” should get its own page with Chibnall’s script name. The fact is it’s a hybrid of the two. Which should be coveted separately. It’s easy to say “he just acts like the Master though”. True he does, but I’d argue that’s a shortcoming of the story rather than proof it wasn’t Chibnall’s intention for it to be a separate being. {{Unsigned|81.108.82.15}}
 :::We do not use details in the script to establish in-universe details. It's very much a violation of policy. Hence, why, for instance, we haven't said that Rasputin ''is'' The Master, rather than The Master ''pretending to be'' Rasputin. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:26, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
-::: While we do not use scripts to establish in-universe details, the script does not make it "super clear" --in fact, the script goes back and forth between referring to the "Master-Doctor" as "The Master-Doctor" and "The Master" (per example though not limited to, pages 59, 60, 73, 80, 83). Notably, it never refers to him as "Doctor" but that's neither here nor there. Here's probably the most clear cut line "And as the Master looks -- his own Rasputin form is in the other regeneration cylinder -- energy flooding back to the husk --" Here, the script very clearly reiterates that this "Master-Doctor" is the Master and that his true body is the "Rasputin form". If we are to take the script as a means of ascertaining in-universe information, it is on the side of them being the same character. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
+::: While we do not use scripts to establish in-universe details, the script does not make it "super clear" --in fact, the script goes back and forth between referring to the "Master-Doctor" as "The Master-Doctor" and "The Master" (per example though not limited to, pages 59, 60, 73, 80, 83). Notably, it never refers to him as "Doctor" but that's neither here nor there. Here's probably the most clear cut line "And as the Master looks -- his own Rasputin form is in the other regeneration cylinder -- energy flooding back to the husk --" Here, the script very clearly reiterates that this "Master-Doctor" is the Master and that his true body is the "Rasputin form". If we are to take the script as a means of ascertaining in-universe information, it is on the side of them being the same character. After all, Chris Chibnall's script says that the Rasputin-Master is the Master-Doctor's true form. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 :::: Yeah, the ''TPotD'' differs from the televised story in many little ways. It feels like an earlier draft of the script TBH. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 23:31, 15 March 2023 (UTC)