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| {{first pic|Six and Valeyard promo.jpg|"A-ha! An exception!"}} | | {{first pic|Six and Valeyard promo.jpg|"A-ha! So there ''is'' an exception!"}} |
| Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a [[Forum:The Panopticon]] thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know ''from the start'' that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with. | | Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a [[Forum:The Panopticon]] thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know ''from the start'' that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with. |
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Welcome to the Tardis inclusion debates!
Inclusion debates are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of Tardis:Valid sources and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.
In greater detail
These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we want to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, not whether you like a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "canon".
An important note: the name means that these are debates about inclusion, not necessarily debates arguing for inclusion: for example, if a source is currently valid, but you have evidence that its status should be changed to invalid, this is also the place to discuss it.
When policy changes
"A-ha! So there
is an exception!"
Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a Forum:The Panopticon thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know from the start that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with.
Get started!
Please remember to sign and date your posts by typing four tildes ("~~~~").
Please make sure that your topic name summarises your topic in a way that will be easily searchable.
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10 April 2024 | Inclusion debate: The works of Douglas Adams | 16:02, 5 November 2024 | Scrooge MacDuck |
2 January 2023 | Validity: The Book of the Enemy's Biographies of Authors | 16:13, 21 October 2024 | SV7 |
9 January 2023 | Temporary forums/Non-narrative fiction and Rule 1 | 16:13, 21 October 2024 | SV7 |
11 January 2023 | Temporary forums/An update to T:VS | 16:12, 21 October 2024 | SV7 |
24 April 2023 | Temporary forums/10,000 Dawns crossovers (Final Round) | 16:10, 21 October 2024 | SV7 |
10 February 2024 | Validity: AU games | 16:14, 23 September 2024 | Cookieboy 2005 |
30 June 2023 | BBC-produced shows and episodes that make extensive use of DWU elements | 22:01, 12 September 2024 | Borisashton |
16 July 2023 | A Fix with Sontarans: Fixing Fix's Validity | 21:54, 30 August 2024 | Cookieboy 2005 |
26 September 2023 | Coverage: other TV magazines features Doctor Who coverage | 17:01, 27 August 2024 | Bongolium500 |
14 August 2023 | Validity: The Sleeze Brothers | 15:40, 27 August 2024 | Scrooge MacDuck |
3 August 2023 | Coverage/validity: DWA meta-fiction | 12:11, 26 August 2024 | Scrooge MacDuck |
6 August 2023 | Validity: The Airzone Solution | 14:35, 25 August 2024 | Scrooge MacDuck |
6 March 2024 | Coverage quickie: the individual "It's Showtime" continuity tags | 14:24, 25 August 2024 | Cookieboy 2005 |
7 May 2024 | That time Peter Capaldi wrote a school report "on behalf of Doctor Who" | 13:54, 25 August 2024 | Scrooge MacDuck |
19 July 2024 | Validity: An Adventure in Space and Time | 22:12, 21 July 2024 | Najawin |
14 March 2023 | Temporary forums/Inclusion debates speedround | 20:38, 25 April 2024 | Botgo50 |
22 March 2023 | Deleted Scenes and Rule 4 By Proxy | 19:41, 25 April 2024 | Botgo50 |
18 February 2023 | Temporary forums/Validity debate: Scream of the Shalka | 18:58, 25 April 2024 | Botgo50 |
17 September 2023 | Coverage/validity: In the Domain of the Daleks | 22:36, 28 February 2024 | OttselSpy25 |
29 October 2011 | The Unspecified Cyberman Debate | 06:56, 28 February 2024 | Najawin |
11 April 2011 | Should we class Big Finish's Doctor Who Unbound series as non-canon? | 05:58, 28 February 2024 | Najawin |
15 January 2012 | Reference books - what do we cover? | 05:18, 28 February 2024 | Najawin |
7 June 2012 | Character Profiles on K9 DVDs | 04:30, 28 February 2024 | Najawin |
9 July 2023 | Validating non-fiction | 00:57, 28 February 2024 | Najawin |
10 November 2023 | Hellscape issues | 12:14, 10 November 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
28 October 2023 | Just how do we cover that time when Katy Manning, in character as Iris Wildthyme, showed up at the Utopia convention and was interviewed by Paul Magrs? | 21:54, 28 October 2023 | Najawin |
10 July 2023 | Roland Rat: The Series | 19:16, 11 September 2023 | Danochy |
24 August 2023 | Coverage/validity: The LEGO Batman Movie | 12:47, 28 August 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
19 August 2023 | Validity: Meet Death's Head | 12:46, 28 August 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
20 April 2012 | Is The Infinity Doctors canon? | 15:11, 24 August 2023 | NateBumber |
19 August 2023 | Coverage/validity: A Better World | 20:31, 22 August 2023 | Bongolium500 |
30 June 2023 | Charity Stories that are TECHNICALLY licensed... | 16:43, 19 August 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
5 July 2023 | Validity:The universe's greatest assassin(...) | 12:50, 19 August 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
28 June 2023 | The Periodic Adventures of Señor 105 | 20:45, 6 August 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
13 June 2023 | Validity: Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet? | 16:02, 5 August 2023 | Bongolium500 |
25 February 2023 | Revisiting fiction with branching elements and historical policy therein | 15:53, 25 July 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
11 May 2012 | Material from "Sightings" page on BBC viral website | 17:45, 22 July 2023 | Epsilon |
20 June 2023 | Consolidating all of the 'How The Monk Got His Habit' pages. | 15:34, 27 June 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
24 May 2023 | Validity: Hacker T. Dog | 12:08, 24 June 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
6 March 2023 | The Daft Dimension and Doctor Who? as parallel universes | 16:26, 11 June 2023 | Scrooge MacDuck |
21 May 2023 | Inclusion debates | 20:52, 4 June 2023 | OncomingStorm12th |
19 February 2023 | Temporary forums/Trailers | 05:02, 12 May 2023 | SV7 |
25 February 2023 | Temporary forums/Legacy validity | 05:02, 12 May 2023 | SV7 |
25 May 2012 | Iris Wildthyme: should she stay or should she go? | 16:33, 9 September 2020 | OncomingStorm12th |
20 August 2012 | Operationalising the Infinity Doctors discussion | 00:43, 2 September 2019 | Shambala108 |
10 June 2012 | Versions of Shada (again) | 07:18, 1 July 2017 | SV7 |
29 January 2011 | BBV and canon policy | 07:17, 1 July 2017 | SV7 |
28 December 2009 | Is the K9 TV series canon? | 07:12, 1 July 2017 | SV7 |
6 June 2012 | The original inclusion debates | 06:53, 1 July 2017 | SV7 |
14 August 2010 | History Hunt | 05:09, 15 May 2017 | SV7 |
19 July 2008 | Are deleted scenes canon? | 03:10, 27 April 2017 | SV7 |
26 March 2007 | Changing novelisation prefix and a question as to novelisation canonicity | 04:36, 30 March 2017 | SV7 |
31 October 2012 | Worlds In Time not valid... Why? | 10:56, 14 October 2016 | SV7 |
26 May 2012 | Inclusion debate: Death Comes to Time | 03:50, 30 August 2016 | SV7 |
9 May 2010 | Article for Liam McShane | 04:25, 20 December 2015 | SV7 |
1 October 2012 | Decide Your Destiny and Find Your Fate are NOTDWU from here on out | 19:59, 12 November 2015 | CzechBot |
14 June 2011 | Is The Forgotten a reliable source? | 08:03, 1 February 2014 | SOTO |
24 November 2012 | Is the Doctor in Sympathy of the Devil of mainstream continuity because he appeared in The 100 Days of The Doctor? | 20:40, 17 December 2013 | CzechBot |
7 June 2011 | Meanwhile in the TARDIS | 05:00, 4 December 2013 | CzechBot |
31 July 2012 | Death Comes to Time characters also named in EDAs | 01:30, 19 February 2013 | CzechOut |
12 October 2012 | P.S. | 04:20, 12 December 2012 | CzechBot |
11 March 2011 | Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon? | 05:34, 19 September 2012 | CzechBot |
11 January 2012 | Is A Fix With Sontarans Canon? | 05:34, 19 September 2012 | CzechBot |
30 May 2011 | How do we best include Faction Paradox on the wiki? | 05:33, 19 September 2012 | CzechBot |
10 October 2011 | Novelisations info - Not inuniverse | 04:09, 28 August 2012 | CzechBot |
30 March 2012 | Is Dimensions in Time canon | 03:58, 28 August 2012 | CzechBot |
7 March 2011 | Canon policy: Items on which policy is unclear | 03:09, 28 August 2012 | CzechBot |
13 June 2010 | More canon questions | 16:32, 14 August 2012 | CzechOut |
28 July 2010 | Doctor Who at the Proms: canon? | 20:50, 21 June 2012 | CzechBot |
31 December 2009 | Web comics | 23:14, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
20 November 2009 | The Ten Doctors webcomic | 23:09, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
12 July 2009 | Canonicity of the BBC Website? | 22:59, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
1 February 2009 | Doctor Who Novelisations - canon or not? | 22:49, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
2 September 2008 | Canonicity of ''I Am the Doctor'' | 22:45, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
3 June 2008 | Short stories on the BBC website | 22:37, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
16 March 2008 | Need more info on Omega | 22:34, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
28 December 2007 | The Hopes and Fears of all the years | 22:31, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
2 December 2007 | Is material on the Advent Calender canonical | 22:31, 6 May 2012 | CzechBot |
23 February 2012 | Early Wildthyme books | 13:37, 2 May 2012 | CzechOut |
29 November 2008 | Canonicity of Dalek Annuals | 03:10, 3 November 2011 | CzechBot |
29 December 2010 | Rich Morris' comics | 11:44, 27 May 2011 | CzechOut |
9 April 2011 | National Television Awards Sketch 2011: Canon? | 17:37, 26 May 2011 | CzechOut |