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Compare [[Groenewegen]]: lots of Groenewgens in the DWU named after [[Sarah Groenewegen]], but they're not in-universe counterparts of the real Sarah. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 01:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Compare [[Groenewegen]]: lots of Groenewgens in the DWU named after [[Sarah Groenewegen]], but they're not in-universe counterparts of the real Sarah. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 01:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
: If it were only the name it'd be one thing, but the IU Edwards is also drawn to ''look'' like the actor. To my mind, if we had a character called Jodie Whittaker who was drawn to look like Jodie Whittaker, she would uncontroversially get the "(in-universe)" dab even if it was a heavily fictionalised version who never played the Doctor or any adjacent role. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 01:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
: If it were only the name it'd be one thing, but the IU Edwards is also drawn to ''look'' like the actor. To my mind, if we had a character called Jodie Whittaker who was drawn to look like Jodie Whittaker, she would uncontroversially get the "(in-universe)" dab even if it was a heavily fictionalised version who never played the Doctor or any adjacent role. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 01:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


::I had been led to believe that we used the in-universe dab term for anything that was named after something in the real world that we had a page on:
::I had been led to believe that we used the in-universe dab term for anything that was named after something in the real world that we had a page on:
{{Quote|The "(in-universe)" disambiguation term should be used to dab any in-universe thing named after an out-of-universe thing.|[[T:DAB IU]]}}
{{Quote|The "(in-universe)" disambiguation term should be used to dab any in-universe thing named after an out-of-universe thing.|[[T:DAB IU]]}}
::[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  07:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::[[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  07:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
::: This case seems different though. As referenced in [[Barnaby Edwards (in-universe)#Behind the scenes|the BTS]] on this page, this character derived from two different people called Barnaby Edwards. I'd argue using (in-universe) as a dab, in this case, is slightly misleading, so I agree with Epsilon here. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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Personally, I believe this character should be renamed to Barnaby Edwards (Old Friend), as the "(in-universe)" dab term is for in-universe counterparts of real world people, which this Barnaby Edwards isn't. His name is obviously a reference to Barnaby Edwards, but there is a difference between "reference" and "counterpart".

Compare Groenewegen: lots of Groenewgens in the DWU named after Sarah Groenewegen, but they're not in-universe counterparts of the real Sarah.

01:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

If it were only the name it'd be one thing, but the IU Edwards is also drawn to look like the actor. To my mind, if we had a character called Jodie Whittaker who was drawn to look like Jodie Whittaker, she would uncontroversially get the "(in-universe)" dab even if it was a heavily fictionalised version who never played the Doctor or any adjacent role. Scrooge MacDuck 01:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
I had been led to believe that we used the in-universe dab term for anything that was named after something in the real world that we had a page on:

The "(in-universe)" disambiguation term should be used to dab any in-universe thing named after an out-of-universe thing.T:DAB IU

Aquanafrahudy 📢 07:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
This case seems different though. As referenced in the BTS on this page, this character derived from two different people called Barnaby Edwards. I'd argue using (in-universe) as a dab, in this case, is slightly misleading, so I agree with Epsilon here. Danochy 02:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)