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=='Unpopular companions'== | =='Unpopular companions'== | ||
I removed a line from the Behind the Scenes section in which it was claimed that Tegan was one of the most unpopular companions. Aside from the fact I have never heard this anywhere else (she may not be in the same league as Rose Tyler but I don't see her being ranked down with Adric), it was a rather irrevelant comment more suitable for the article on the character, if anywhere (and presumably with some sort of attribution). The BTS section in general contains supposition and unsourced claims, as is part and parcel of most articles on the wiki, but I just felt that POV statement regarding Tegan didn't fit. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 18:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | I removed a line from the Behind the Scenes section in which it was claimed that Tegan was one of the most unpopular companions. Aside from the fact I have never heard this anywhere else (she may not be in the same league as Rose Tyler but I don't see her being ranked down with Adric), it was a rather irrevelant comment more suitable for the article on the character, if anywhere (and presumably with some sort of attribution). The BTS section in general contains supposition and unsourced claims, as is part and parcel of most articles on the wiki, but I just felt that POV statement regarding Tegan didn't fit. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 18:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I think "most unpopular companion" is | :I think "most unpopular companion" is something that is down to individuals, and should not be noted in the article. [[User:Jack's the man|Jack's]] [[User talk:Jack's the man|the]] [[Special:Contributions/Jack's the man|man]] - 18:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
::seconded. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | ::seconded. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::if I could put that down it would be biuas I third that. --Catkind121 09:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC) | :::if I could put that down it would be biuas I third that. --Catkind121 09:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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But Astrid Peth was also like Lady Christina, so why is she in the list?[[User:DuduDoctor|DuduDoctor]] 10:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | But Astrid Peth was also like Lady Christina, so why is she in the list?[[User:DuduDoctor|DuduDoctor]] 10:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The lack of solid definition always makes difficult discussions of who is and isn't a companion. | ::The lack of solid definition always makes difficult discussions of who is and isn't a companion. However, Astrid does have a stronger narrative claim than Christina, in that the Doctor asked her to be one, and she accepted. Christina was explicitly denied entry to the TARDIS. In fact, Astrid seems more a companion to me than Grace, who largely gets on these lists because she's the only likely candidate from the Eighth Doctor's lone televised appearance. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 14:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Christina da Souza belongs. the press did promote her as the Doctor's companion in the special. also, the Wiki has listed her as a companion of the [[Tenth Doctor]] elsewhere. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 00:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC) | ::Christina da Souza belongs. the press did promote her as the Doctor's companion in the special. also, the Wiki has listed her as a companion of the [[Tenth Doctor]] elsewhere. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 00:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Grace also qualifies because she is explicitly invited, but declines. That places her in the same category as Donna Noble as of ''The Runaway Bride''. And of course the "must travel in the TARDIS" rule would actually disqualify Liz Shaw while strengthening Grace's case. The one that's tricky (even though I suggest he be included in the thread below) is Jackson Lake because technically the Doctor was ''his'' companion, rather than the other way around. Heck, the Doctor even got to ride in Jackson's TARDIS! [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 04:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC) | :::Grace also qualifies because she is explicitly invited, but declines. That places her in the same category as Donna Noble as of ''The Runaway Bride''. And of course the "must travel in the TARDIS" rule would actually disqualify Liz Shaw while strengthening Grace's case. The one that's tricky (even though I suggest he be included in the thread below) is Jackson Lake because technically the Doctor was ''his'' companion, rather than the other way around. Heck, the Doctor even got to ride in Jackson's TARDIS! [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 04:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Even by the loosest standards I don't see any argument for claiming Adelade was a companion. She was no more a companion that the hundreds of major characters who helped the Doctor out over the years. | Even by the loosest standards I don't see any argument for claiming Adelade was a companion. She was no more a companion that the hundreds of major characters who helped the Doctor out over the years. I think the only reason folks like Adelade, Astrid, Jackson, etc.. are even considered as companions is because the Doctor wasn't traveling with anybody at the time. There would be no discussion if the Doctor ran into these types of people with a companion already in tow. | ||
==Jackson Lake missing from Companion image== | ==Jackson Lake missing from Companion image== | ||
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I agree, and Rosita should be too. Also on an unrelated subject, Astrid, Christina, Adelaide and Wilf don't travel with the Doctor and are in the image, yet the Brig, Benton, Mike Yates and Jackie Tyler aren't.I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 07:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC) | I agree, and Rosita should be too. Also on an unrelated subject, Astrid, Christina, Adelaide and Wilf don't travel with the Doctor and are in the image, yet the Brig, Benton, Mike Yates and Jackie Tyler aren't.I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 07:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC) | ||
==River Song, Companion of the Tenth Doctor?== | |||
I find it strange that River Song is not listed among the Tenth Doctors companions, as she is arguably more important to the Doctor than his other one-off companions, something that her posessing his Sonic Screwdriver and knowing his real name proves. One might argue that she did not travel with the Tenth Doctor, but neither did a handful of other people that are considered companions. Please add arguments against naming her a companion of the Tenth Doctor. [[User:EltharionDrax|EltharionDrax]] 16:21, June 27, 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 16:21, 27 June 2010
'Unpopular companions'
I removed a line from the Behind the Scenes section in which it was claimed that Tegan was one of the most unpopular companions. Aside from the fact I have never heard this anywhere else (she may not be in the same league as Rose Tyler but I don't see her being ranked down with Adric), it was a rather irrevelant comment more suitable for the article on the character, if anywhere (and presumably with some sort of attribution). The BTS section in general contains supposition and unsourced claims, as is part and parcel of most articles on the wiki, but I just felt that POV statement regarding Tegan didn't fit. 23skidoo 18:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think "most unpopular companion" is something that is down to individuals, and should not be noted in the article. Jack's the man - 18:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- seconded. --Stardizzy2 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- if I could put that down it would be biuas I third that. --Catkind121 09:23, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
- seconded. --Stardizzy2 19:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Companion Status
What about Lady Christina de Souza? DuduDoctor 08:53, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
As she is a part of the 2009 Specials, she is consider to be one off if I remember correctly, but dont quote me on thatBigshowbower 09:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
But Astrid Peth was also like Lady Christina, so why is she in the list?DuduDoctor 10:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- The lack of solid definition always makes difficult discussions of who is and isn't a companion. However, Astrid does have a stronger narrative claim than Christina, in that the Doctor asked her to be one, and she accepted. Christina was explicitly denied entry to the TARDIS. In fact, Astrid seems more a companion to me than Grace, who largely gets on these lists because she's the only likely candidate from the Eighth Doctor's lone televised appearance. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 14:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Christina da Souza belongs. the press did promote her as the Doctor's companion in the special. also, the Wiki has listed her as a companion of the Tenth Doctor elsewhere. --Stardizzy2 00:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Grace also qualifies because she is explicitly invited, but declines. That places her in the same category as Donna Noble as of The Runaway Bride. And of course the "must travel in the TARDIS" rule would actually disqualify Liz Shaw while strengthening Grace's case. The one that's tricky (even though I suggest he be included in the thread below) is Jackson Lake because technically the Doctor was his companion, rather than the other way around. Heck, the Doctor even got to ride in Jackson's TARDIS! 23skidoo 04:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
- Christina da Souza belongs. the press did promote her as the Doctor's companion in the special. also, the Wiki has listed her as a companion of the Tenth Doctor elsewhere. --Stardizzy2 00:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Even by the loosest standards I don't see any argument for claiming Adelade was a companion. She was no more a companion that the hundreds of major characters who helped the Doctor out over the years. I think the only reason folks like Adelade, Astrid, Jackson, etc.. are even considered as companions is because the Doctor wasn't traveling with anybody at the time. There would be no discussion if the Doctor ran into these types of people with a companion already in tow.
Jackson Lake missing from Companion image
Since the infobox image of the companions includes the one-time companions, then Jackson Lake needs to be included as well. 23skidoo 04:18, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
I agree, and Rosita should be too. Also on an unrelated subject, Astrid, Christina, Adelaide and Wilf don't travel with the Doctor and are in the image, yet the Brig, Benton, Mike Yates and Jackie Tyler aren't.I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit 07:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
River Song, Companion of the Tenth Doctor?
I find it strange that River Song is not listed among the Tenth Doctors companions, as she is arguably more important to the Doctor than his other one-off companions, something that her posessing his Sonic Screwdriver and knowing his real name proves. One might argue that she did not travel with the Tenth Doctor, but neither did a handful of other people that are considered companions. Please add arguments against naming her a companion of the Tenth Doctor. EltharionDrax 16:21, June 27, 2010 (UTC)