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:I changed a number of pages in this way as a characters life likely lasted longer than a decade and in some cases I've seen specific years in the info box. This was the case with a number of pages related to [[The Romans]] i.e. [[Nero]]. Maybe a century is too long though.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]] 17:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | :I changed a number of pages in this way as a characters life likely lasted longer than a decade and in some cases I've seen specific years in the info box. This was the case with a number of pages related to [[The Romans]] i.e. [[Nero]]. Maybe a century is too long though.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]] 17:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:A possible solution could be to list the era they were born in, as well as the one they currently reside wherever possible. For example(just watched VoS, first that came to mind) Rani Chandra : Home Era: 20th Century(Born), 21st Century(Current). Everyones happy, and it allows for the most accuracy and personal intrepretation. - '' <span style ="color:midnightblue">I. Am. [[User: Excalibur-117| Excalibur-117]]''-<sup>([[User talk:Excalibur-117|talk]] • [[Special: Contributions/ Excalibur-117|contribs]])</sup></span> 17:26, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | :A possible solution could be to list the era they were born in, as well as the one they currently reside wherever possible. For example(just watched VoS, first that came to mind) Rani Chandra : Home Era: 20th Century(Born), 21st Century(Current). Everyones happy, and it allows for the most accuracy and personal intrepretation. - ''<span style ="color:midnightblue">I. Am. [[User: Excalibur-117|Excalibur-117]]</span>''<span style ="color:midnightblue">-<sup>([[User talk:Excalibur-117|talk]] • [[Special: Contributions/ Excalibur-117|contribs]])</sup></span> 17:26, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Bit of an overload in an already cramped infobox.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]] 17:28, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | ::Bit of an overload in an already cramped infobox.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]] 17:28, October 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Stay with the current system I think, the infobox is meant as a summary of the article, so to assuage Tzigone's concerns I think it's the writing of the article that needs to be looked at, rather than the infobox. Perhaps the lead sentence or so in articles should specify ''when'' an individual lived / was active. | :::Stay with the current system I think, the infobox is meant as a summary of the article, so to assuage Tzigone's concerns I think it's the writing of the article that needs to be looked at, rather than the infobox. Perhaps the lead sentence or so in articles should specify ''when'' an individual lived / was active. | ||
:::Would it make it clearer to change the Home era section of the infobox from "Home Era" to "Era active"? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 12:41, October 20, 2010 (UTC) | :::Would it make it clearer to change the Home era section of the infobox from "Home Era" to "Era active"? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 12:41, October 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::That'd work too.- '' <span style ="color:midnightblue">I. Am. [[User: Excalibur-117| Excalibur-117]]''-<sup>([[User talk:Excalibur-117|talk]] • [[Special: Contributions/ Excalibur-117|contribs]])</sup></span> 15:23, October 20, 2010 (UTC) |
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If this thread's title doesn't specify it's spoilery, don't bring any up.
You know, I've noticed recently the changing of home era in the infoboxes to be century-specific rather than decade or year-specific. This is a more accurate usage for the label, I realize. However, in a few cases, we do seem to lose info by doing so. Specifically, just recently the Billy (Delta and the Bannermen) page was updated. And in this case, we lose what time he is from. I mean, when the character is contemporary to the show, it doesn't really matter. But in this case, now reading the article, I don't know that he isn't from the '80s when the episode aired (well, except his clothes). I feel like I've lost relevant information about the character. Or would have, if I hadn't seen the episode yet (certainly I hadn't when I first read the article shortly after discovering this site). I know I could get that info by looking at the episode article. But would it be okay or advisable to, when changing over the home-era to add a reference to the narrower range (or specific year) in the body of the article? I was thinking of trying to work the year into that article, is all. But I don't know if it's really wanted by anyone else. Tzigone 16:16, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I've noticed this, and I think we are loosing information in this change.
- Surely era can mean specific periods like the '50s etc. Rather than just the century?
- Wikitionary gives era as "A time period of indeterminate length, generally more than one year.". --Tangerineduel 16:22, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see why we couldn't just give a century, (millenium if necessessary) then if again possible, or just to make it more accurate add in brackets the decade (i.e '50's). I'd also be in favor for using (present day) for characters who are from present Earth- the majority of companions and spinoff cast etc. - I. Am. Excalibur-117-(talk • contribs) 16:33, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- But what about those who are born in say... the 40s and appear at different times throughout their lives. Do we put 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s etc? I feel the century option is the best and, in their biography, it can easily state the year. Take Ocean Waters for example, her biography states "In 1972...." and "In 2010..." which I think is a fine way of doing it. --The Thirteenth Doctor 16:52, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- To be fair, the current system works. I think a real problem is that we lack a definite view of what constitues a Home Era. Is it where they're born, or when we last saw them residing? Most of the characters were born in the 20th Century, but live through part of the 21st as well (we usually just say the latter, but sometimes both are used.)- I. Am. Excalibur-117-(talk • contribs) 17:02, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I consider it when they live. Jack was born in the 51st century, so that's his home era. He travelled to many different eras, but never had a "home" as such there. But he actually lived and set up "home" in the 20th and 21st century, staying in those places by choice. If the Doctor had decided to stay on Earth for the entire 21st century, setting up a home, we'd probably consider it his home era as well. --The Thirteenth Doctor 17:06, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I changed a number of pages in this way as a characters life likely lasted longer than a decade and in some cases I've seen specific years in the info box. This was the case with a number of pages related to The Romans i.e. Nero. Maybe a century is too long though.--Skittles the hog 17:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- A possible solution could be to list the era they were born in, as well as the one they currently reside wherever possible. For example(just watched VoS, first that came to mind) Rani Chandra : Home Era: 20th Century(Born), 21st Century(Current). Everyones happy, and it allows for the most accuracy and personal intrepretation. - I. Am. Excalibur-117-(talk • contribs) 17:26, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Bit of an overload in an already cramped infobox.--Skittles the hog 17:28, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Stay with the current system I think, the infobox is meant as a summary of the article, so to assuage Tzigone's concerns I think it's the writing of the article that needs to be looked at, rather than the infobox. Perhaps the lead sentence or so in articles should specify when an individual lived / was active.
- Would it make it clearer to change the Home era section of the infobox from "Home Era" to "Era active"? --Tangerineduel 12:41, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- That'd work too.- I. Am. Excalibur-117-(talk • contribs) 15:23, October 20, 2010 (UTC)