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Hi, just to let anyone know I've currently started on Doctor Who Magazine related pages  which I hope will be comprehensive (I promise I'll catch up soon).I had to start somewhere but if anyone has suggestions or requests for details they would find useful / interesting or both, please let me know.Hope I can help! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 01:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
==Hi,==
Just to let anyone know I've currently started on Doctor Who Magazine related pages  which I hope will be comprehensive (I promise I'll catch up soon).I had to start somewhere but if anyone has suggestions or requests for details they would find useful / interesting or both, please let me know.Hope I can help! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 01:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


{{Welcome|The Librarian|[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]]}}
Update: because of the number of links within the magazine pages I've also turned my attention to;
* Other related releases (including specials, graphic novels, poster mags, American comics, etc.)
* Listings and coverage of the Doctors comic strip stories (including DW Classic Comics and TV Comic)
* Doctor Who Annuals and Yearbooks
* Target novels (which are extensively reviewed and included in features)
I've still a lot to learn and will be revisiting the pages later at some point to fill in some of the gaps so please bare with me, unless you get there first! and thats before I get to the In-Universe stuff!! Enjoy [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 20:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC) <br>
: Oh and big thanks to [[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]]


==My Useful Links==
: [[Tardis:Publication Index List]]
: [[:Category:Prose stories]]
: [[:Category:Novel series]]
: [[:Category:Reference Books]]
: [[:Category:Target Novels]]


 
==Reminders to Myself (following clean-up) [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 20:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC) ==
==Comic Infobox==
Hey, well I decided to update the current comic infobox, rather than create a whole new one.
Take a look at [[The Power of Thoueris!]] (as that was the most recent one I created or thereabouts) and has the new infobox layout implemented in there. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 04:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 
::Have added response to your question on my Talk page: [[User talk:Tangerineduel#Comic Strip Pages]]. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 10:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 
== Links ==
 
Hi Librarian. The reason to why I have put red links in pages you've written is: I don't know very much about the early Doctor Who stories, but I thought that if I create links to characters mentioned on pages it's more likely that someone who knows more then me will write some info...
 
By the way I think you're doing a great job! Keep on going! Rufus
 
Hey Rufus...there's a conversation between me and the Librarian lurking...somewhere, either on my talk page or his or in the forum. The gist is (or my argument at least) is that I left the creation of character pages up to the Librarian (as he does in fact have the Magazines in front of him) and so he would know whether or not there is enough information to create a character page for the characters mentioned (as in many cases the information such as it is can be answered in the comic's own page rather than a one line page). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 
==Reminders to Myself (following clean-up) [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 21:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC) ==
 
* Brackets after everything look messy
* Brackets after everything look messy
* Include ==External links== at the end of every page
* Include ==External links== at the end of every page
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* Sets of pages (e.g. TV, Books, CD. Audio and Anthology pages) have an established look
* Sets of pages (e.g. TV, Books, CD. Audio and Anthology pages) have an established look
* Bullet points(*) VS short indentations(:)
* Bullet points(*) VS short indentations(:)
* Dont use too many indentations
* (` `)  italics
* (` `)  italics
* (` ` `)  bold
* (` ` `)  bold
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* Do a search for variants of a missing link (e.g. early episode titles)
* Do a search for variants of a missing link (e.g. early episode titles)
* Article> history> compare edits. Use the compare option to see changes made in the history and pick up tips on punctuation etc.
* Article> history> compare edits. Use the compare option to see changes made in the history and pick up tips on punctuation etc.
* ? |
* | is used to separate the linking page to what actually appears as text
* keep the brackets tight!
* ? little reference numbers
* ? little reference numbers
* <nowiki>{{proposed deletion}}</nowiki> (? start and end bit)
: with a nowiki /nowiki to conceal it!
* Its probably easier to do than I think!


==Re: Doctor Who Books Article==
==Ongoing==
Just a note on why I'm deleting this.
===Comic Infobox===
There is a lot of over lap in this article and...well practically the whole of the wiki, then there's also that you're mixing the in/out of universe.
Hey, well I decided to update the current comic infobox, rather than create a whole new one.  
Hardly any of the books are acually referred to as such, see: [[:Category:Prose stories]], [[:Category:Novel series]] [[:Category:Reference Books]] is the only exception (and like most things proves the rule).
Take a look at [[The Power of Thoueris!]] (as that was the most recent one I created or thereabouts) and has the new infobox layout implemented in there. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 04:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Having a page such as the one you've created will lead to complicated process involving referencing and how people reference/refer to stories, as the general rule is to refer to them as such, rather than as 'books'.
Also glancing over the topics you've not taken a look around as many of them exist (just not with the names you've assigned), they also already exist within their own pages.


Put simply, the page you've created is really, really going to complicate things, especially given the already established manual of style and other such processes.
===Additional (Red) Links ===
Just thought I'd explain my reasons. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 18:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Librarian. The reason to why I have put red links in pages you've written is: I don't know very much about the early Doctor Who stories, but I thought that if I create links to characters mentioned on pages it's more likely that someone who knows more then me will write some info...


By the way I think you're doing a great job! Keep on going! Rufus


:Just thought you'd like to know the 'replacement' is finished, well more or less [[Tardis:Publication Index List]]. It a lot more tidy than your original page, however it is open for expansion along the lines that exist there (which I find makes it more navigatable) --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey Rufus...there's a conversation between me and the Librarian lurking...somewhere, either on my talk page or his or in the forum. The gist is (or my argument at least) is that I left the creation of character pages up to the Librarian (as he does in fact have the Magazines in front of him) and so he would know whether or not there is enough information to create a character page for the characters mentioned (as in many cases the information such as it is can be answered in the comic's own page rather than a one line page). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 
==Novelisations==
Hey (yes it's me again...sorry) just a tiny problem with your [[Target Novelisation Covers]], a lot of the names that they link to (though not all) are wrong check out [[Target Novelisation]] which has a list of all the Target Novelisations, just thought I'd mention it, as many of the novelisations are called '''Doctor Who and the...''' while others are just the title in which case '''(novelisation)''' after the title would be the way to go. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 06:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 


:Me (once more), just a few notes. the | symbol, doesn't do anything within the category listing (when placed within the page when denotinig categories, aside from where the page is placed alphabetically etc so when you place it after the category name whatever you write after it is where it'll end up. Mainly it's used to get rid of the 'The' in names to make it catologue better or with a * to place it at the top of categories.
===Novelisations===
:I say this only because I didn't have a clue what you were doing in the Target Novelisations page, also, the Publications Index was ''just'' a page, not a category. I've fixed it so it's now in a category ([[:Category:Target Novels]]) --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 03:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 
Hello....
Again...
I think that it might be best not to have '''Doctor Who''' at the start of all these novelisation covers. As this is the Doctor Who wiki, it's pretty much self evident that it's a Doctor Who story.
I think that it might be best not to have '''Doctor Who''' at the start of all these novelisation covers. As this is the Doctor Who wiki, it's pretty much self evident that it's a Doctor Who story.
It may also be best to follow the links laid out on [[Target Novelisation]], which have a much cleaner (and in some cases shorter) titles than your listing.
It may also be best to follow the links laid out on [[Target Novelisation]], which have a much cleaner (and in some cases shorter) titles than your listing.
I may start to re-name some of the titles soon. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I may start to re-name some of the titles soon. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


:On (another) side note...why are you indenting the cover blurb/publisher's summary on the Target novels? You don't need to indent it, it's more or less better not to (as it generally will push the text into the infobox (plus it looks weird). Similarly there's some odd wikiformatting when I've been looking at the pages gaps between the [[ and the actual text. (Just wondering what it's all about) --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
not all the novelisation titles have to have (novelisation) written after them, especially the ones entitled 'Doctor Who and the' they definatley do not need novelisation after them.--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 
::On another side note...I wouldn't put the phrase 'Infobox' in the articles when referring to stuff in the page, unless (who ever is reading the page) has actually edited a wikipedia article (and even then) might not know what an infobox is. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 
:::On a third thought...The brackets at the end of any given article are there to make the article different from something that has the same name see the [[Shada]] page for examples, but in the case where some is just the name, it doesn't nessecarily have to have a set of brackets after it to set it apart from everything else, so not all the novelisation titles have to have (novelisation) written after them, especially the ones entitled 'Doctor Who and the' they definatley do not need novelisation after them.--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 
::::On a fourth thought (sorry to keep adding these) if you mistakenly create a page such as Planet of the Giants novelisation, don't just leave it there to be a dead link or whatever put a <nowiki>{{proposed deletion}}</nowiki> on it so an admin knows to delete it (rather than having two pages which look more or less the same around). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 08:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 
===New Target Novelisations Pages===
Didn't we discuss the creation of novelisation pages and what not...shouldn't it be The Ark (novelisation), and The Celestial Toymaker (novelisation)? As laid out in [[Target Novelisation]]...--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 20:02, 7 September 2007

Hi,

Just to let anyone know I've currently started on Doctor Who Magazine related pages which I hope will be comprehensive (I promise I'll catch up soon).I had to start somewhere but if anyone has suggestions or requests for details they would find useful / interesting or both, please let me know.Hope I can help! The Librarian 01:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Update: because of the number of links within the magazine pages I've also turned my attention to;

  • Other related releases (including specials, graphic novels, poster mags, American comics, etc.)
  • Listings and coverage of the Doctors comic strip stories (including DW Classic Comics and TV Comic)
  • Doctor Who Annuals and Yearbooks
  • Target novels (which are extensively reviewed and included in features)

I've still a lot to learn and will be revisiting the pages later at some point to fill in some of the gaps so please bare with me, unless you get there first! and thats before I get to the In-Universe stuff!! Enjoy The Librarian 20:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh and big thanks to Tangerineduel

My Useful Links

Tardis:Publication Index List
Category:Prose stories
Category:Novel series
Category:Reference Books
Category:Target Novels

Reminders to Myself (following clean-up) The Librarian 20:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Brackets after everything look messy
  • Include ==External links== at the end of every page
  • Have a look at similar pages first!
  • Sets of pages (e.g. TV, Books, CD. Audio and Anthology pages) have an established look
  • Bullet points(*) VS short indentations(:)
  • Dont use too many indentations
  • (` `) italics
  • (` ` `) bold
  • `br` in greater/less than brackets is used to create a new line of the same formatted text
  • REFERENCES relate to in-universe comments and observations.
  • CONTINUITY relates to mainly out of universe comments.
  • Previous/Next boxes in the infoboxes relate to publication order if not sequentially part of a set.
    Additional terms used could include OCCURS BEFORE / AFTER
  • MINOR EDITS should only be ticked when there is no new or additional information added to a page.
  • Regarding WORD editing:
"..." does not translate well!
  • Use the `what links here` on the top left column to explore the topic.
  • Do a search for variants of a missing link (e.g. early episode titles)
  • Article> history> compare edits. Use the compare option to see changes made in the history and pick up tips on punctuation etc.
  • | is used to separate the linking page to what actually appears as text
  • keep the brackets tight!
  • ? little reference numbers
  • {{proposed deletion}} (? start and end bit)
with a nowiki /nowiki to conceal it!
  • Its probably easier to do than I think!

Ongoing

Comic Infobox

Hey, well I decided to update the current comic infobox, rather than create a whole new one. Take a look at The Power of Thoueris! (as that was the most recent one I created or thereabouts) and has the new infobox layout implemented in there. --Tangerineduel 04:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Additional (Red) Links

Hi Librarian. The reason to why I have put red links in pages you've written is: I don't know very much about the early Doctor Who stories, but I thought that if I create links to characters mentioned on pages it's more likely that someone who knows more then me will write some info...

By the way I think you're doing a great job! Keep on going! Rufus

Hey Rufus...there's a conversation between me and the Librarian lurking...somewhere, either on my talk page or his or in the forum. The gist is (or my argument at least) is that I left the creation of character pages up to the Librarian (as he does in fact have the Magazines in front of him) and so he would know whether or not there is enough information to create a character page for the characters mentioned (as in many cases the information such as it is can be answered in the comic's own page rather than a one line page). --Tangerineduel 15:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Novelisations

I think that it might be best not to have Doctor Who at the start of all these novelisation covers. As this is the Doctor Who wiki, it's pretty much self evident that it's a Doctor Who story. It may also be best to follow the links laid out on Target Novelisation, which have a much cleaner (and in some cases shorter) titles than your listing. I may start to re-name some of the titles soon. --Tangerineduel 08:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

not all the novelisation titles have to have (novelisation) written after them, especially the ones entitled 'Doctor Who and the' they definatley do not need novelisation after them.--Tangerineduel 08:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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