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They did go out of their way to explain that she couldn't regenerate. Martha specifically said that there was no sign of regeneration, and I'm sure that they confirmed that Jenny was dead before the Doctor left. Timelords have never been shown to stay dead for that long without regenerating, except for the Seventh Doctor, who was prevented from regenerating due to the anasthetic. I don't remember Jenny being given anesthetic at any point in the episode. They could have given Jenny a normal regeneration if they wanted to recast her, but they specifically showed her coming back to life without changing her face.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 02:04, May 10, 2011 (UTC) | They did go out of their way to explain that she couldn't regenerate. Martha specifically said that there was no sign of regeneration, and I'm sure that they confirmed that Jenny was dead before the Doctor left. Timelords have never been shown to stay dead for that long without regenerating, except for the Seventh Doctor, who was prevented from regenerating due to the anasthetic. I don't remember Jenny being given anesthetic at any point in the episode. They could have given Jenny a normal regeneration if they wanted to recast her, but they specifically showed her coming back to life without changing her face.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 02:04, May 10, 2011 (UTC) | ||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">Icereamdif: "Martha specifically said that there was no sign of regeneration..." The fact that Martha had to convince the Doctor that she wasn't regenerating is pretty good evidence that they thought she could. At any rate, all of the quotes from RTD make it clear that they deliberately left open the question of whether that counts as a regeneration. So you can come up with evidence arguing both ways, but if there's any "proof" in either direction, either you're wrong, or you found an error in RTD's writing.</p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">"They could have given Jenny a normal regeneration if they wanted to recast her, but they specifically showed her coming back to life without changing her face." That's because in 2008 they didn't want to recast her. But if they wanted to use her in 2011, they wouldn't have any choice--again, very pregnant.</p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">Revan: "when she died she wasn't all Time Lord like the Doctor said..." He was agreeing that she was all Time Lord biologically, but claiming that her personality, training, ethics, etc. made her not count as a Time Lord. Read the quote above, or watch the episode. </p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">Anyway, Moffat could come up with some convincing explanation for a regenerating Jenny if he wanted to, and he could come do the same for Lucy Cole, but both seem like things he'd be unlikely to _want_ to do. I won't argue any more on any of those points.</p> | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">The question I'm asking is: Is there any evidence out there beyond the never-very-trustworthy IMDB pointing to either of them returning this season? --[[Special:Contributions/99.33.26.0|99.33.26.0]] 03:36, May 11, 2011 (UTC)</p> | |||