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The Daleks in "Day of the Daleks" evidently come from a time many centuries in the future, as they recognise the First and Second Doctors, but not the Third. So if they conquered Earth sometime in the late 20th/early 21st century, they must have travelled back in time from their home era......but surely that would cause a massive paradox in their history, likely eradicating the future they came from? [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 19:25, September 7, 2011 (UTC){{Forumheader|The Howling}}
The Daleks in "Day of the Daleks" evidently come from a time many centuries in the future, as they recognise the First and Second Doctors, but not the Third. So if they conquered Earth sometime in the late 20th/early 21st century, they must have travelled back in time from their home era......but surely that would cause a massive paradox in their history, likely eradicating the future they came from? [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]] 19:25, September 7, 2011 (UTC){{Forumheader|The Howling}}
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The Daleks in ''Day of the Daleks ''come from the 22nd century but it's not clear from the broadcast story when they conquered Earth. The freedom fighters wanted to kill Sir Reginald Styles because they believed he'd blown up the peace conference and that resulted in a series of wars whose eventual effect was to leave Earth vulnerable to conquest. As the Doctor figured out, the explosion hadn't been caused by Styles -- he was an obnoxious, pompous ass but not a villain. It had been caused by the freedom fighters who were trying to kill him; they had brought about the very event they'd set out to prevent. As the Doctor told them, they'd set out to change history but had instead become part of it. The Doctor didn't stop the explosion from happening but did get UNIT to evacuate the delegates from the house (giving the Brigadier the chance to shout at Styles and order him about, which the Brigadier seemed to enjoy doing). Shura, one of the freedom fighters, waited until the Daleks were in the house, then blew them (and himself) up, instead of the delegates. The result was that history '''was''' changed -- redirected on to an alternate track in which the Dalek conquest didn't happen.
The whole story was an example of a "bootstrap" paradox being broken by the Doctor's intervention.
I'm not really sure what question(s) you're raising but I hope this helps. --[[Special:Contributions/89.242.67.85|89.242.67.85]] 02:07, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

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The Daleks in "Day of the Daleks" evidently come from a time many centuries in the future, as they recognise the First and Second Doctors, but not the Third. So if they conquered Earth sometime in the late 20th/early 21st century, they must have travelled back in time from their home era......but surely that would cause a massive paradox in their history, likely eradicating the future they came from? 82.2.136.93 19:25, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

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The Daleks in Day of the Daleks come from the 22nd century but it's not clear from the broadcast story when they conquered Earth. The freedom fighters wanted to kill Sir Reginald Styles because they believed he'd blown up the peace conference and that resulted in a series of wars whose eventual effect was to leave Earth vulnerable to conquest. As the Doctor figured out, the explosion hadn't been caused by Styles -- he was an obnoxious, pompous ass but not a villain. It had been caused by the freedom fighters who were trying to kill him; they had brought about the very event they'd set out to prevent. As the Doctor told them, they'd set out to change history but had instead become part of it. The Doctor didn't stop the explosion from happening but did get UNIT to evacuate the delegates from the house (giving the Brigadier the chance to shout at Styles and order him about, which the Brigadier seemed to enjoy doing). Shura, one of the freedom fighters, waited until the Daleks were in the house, then blew them (and himself) up, instead of the delegates. The result was that history was changed -- redirected on to an alternate track in which the Dalek conquest didn't happen.

The whole story was an example of a "bootstrap" paradox being broken by the Doctor's intervention.

I'm not really sure what question(s) you're raising but I hope this helps. --89.242.67.85 02:07, September 8, 2011 (UTC)