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The fact that a 20th century physicist was capable of creating a green ooze that was able to turn him into an ood (complete with translator orb), only to turn back to normal by stepping through a "magic gateway" pretty much classes this story as non-canon, or at most a dream (a la Dimensions in Time/Search Out Space). This isn't even mentioning the truly cringeworthy lines. [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] <sup>[[User talk:TemporalSpleen|talk to me]]</sup> 08:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | The fact that a 20th century physicist was capable of creating a green ooze that was able to turn him into an ood (complete with translator orb), only to turn back to normal by stepping through a "magic gateway" pretty much classes this story as non-canon, or at most a dream (a la Dimensions in Time/Search Out Space). This isn't even mentioning the truly cringeworthy lines. [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] <sup>[[User talk:TemporalSpleen|talk to me]]</sup> 08:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:It's by no means the goofiest thing a human scientist has ever been able to accomplish in ''[[Doctor Who]]''. | :It's by no means the goofiest thing a human scientist has ever been able to accomplish in ''[[Doctor Who]]''. Maybe the ooze is alien in origin and Einstein found it. Maybe it reacted with the time bridge created by the TARDIS accident and his own time machine in some way. But if mildly difficult and underexplained scifi plot points were on their own enough to de-canonise a ''Doctor Who'' story, we'd lose at least half of them. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 17:21, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Most of the dialogue's okay, but the plot doesn't make any sense at all. Still, if we decided that episodes can be declared non canon because there plots don't make sense, then we'd lose, ''Ghost Light'', ''The Curse of Fenric'', and several other episodes. The only possible reason to declare this non canon would be that it was written by a group of children. Does anybody know if Moffat or the BBC considers this canon, because that is what really matters.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 20:44, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | Most of the dialogue's okay, but the plot doesn't make any sense at all. Still, if we decided that episodes can be declared non canon because there plots don't make sense, then we'd lose, ''Ghost Light'', ''The Curse of Fenric'', and several other episodes. The only possible reason to declare this non canon would be that it was written by a group of children. Does anybody know if Moffat or the BBC considers this canon, because that is what really matters.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 20:44, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::I don't know about the BBC, but Moffat is the one who said that "it's impossible for a show about a dimension-hopping time traveller to have a canon".--[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] <sup>[[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|talk to me]]</sup> 21:08, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Timeline == | == Timeline == | ||
We don't know enough to place this in a specific point in the timeline. The current "Timeline" section in this article represents the best guesses with all the available data, but we can't really pin it down to when it definitely occurs for the Doctor. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 17:26, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | We don't know enough to place this in a specific point in the timeline. The current "Timeline" section in this article represents the best guesses with all the available data, but we can't really pin it down to when it definitely occurs for the Doctor. — [[User:Rob T Firefly|Rob T Firefly]] - '''[[User talk:Rob T Firefly|Δ]][[Special:Contributions/Rob T Firefly|∇]]''' - 17:26, October 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Canonicity
This episode shouldn't bed considered canon. User:Doctorpenguin 
08:00, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Normally people give evidence for their claims...--Skittles the hog - talk 08:09, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
The fact that a 20th century physicist was capable of creating a green ooze that was able to turn him into an ood (complete with translator orb), only to turn back to normal by stepping through a "magic gateway" pretty much classes this story as non-canon, or at most a dream (a la Dimensions in Time/Search Out Space). This isn't even mentioning the truly cringeworthy lines. TemporalSpleen talk to me 08:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
- It's by no means the goofiest thing a human scientist has ever been able to accomplish in Doctor Who. Maybe the ooze is alien in origin and Einstein found it. Maybe it reacted with the time bridge created by the TARDIS accident and his own time machine in some way. But if mildly difficult and underexplained scifi plot points were on their own enough to de-canonise a Doctor Who story, we'd lose at least half of them. — Rob T Firefly - Δ∇ - 17:21, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Most of the dialogue's okay, but the plot doesn't make any sense at all. Still, if we decided that episodes can be declared non canon because there plots don't make sense, then we'd lose, Ghost Light, The Curse of Fenric, and several other episodes. The only possible reason to declare this non canon would be that it was written by a group of children. Does anybody know if Moffat or the BBC considers this canon, because that is what really matters.Icecreamdif talk to me 20:44, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know about the BBC, but Moffat is the one who said that "it's impossible for a show about a dimension-hopping time traveller to have a canon".--MrThermomanPreacher talk to me 21:08, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
Timeline
We don't know enough to place this in a specific point in the timeline. The current "Timeline" section in this article represents the best guesses with all the available data, but we can't really pin it down to when it definitely occurs for the Doctor. — Rob T Firefly - Δ∇ - 17:26, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
