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While discussing about the Skaro destroyed thing, this interesting thing popped out which is obviously going a bit off-topic for that thread. Up to this point, other than the fall of Davros, the Doctor's comments on the Last Great Time War is so ambiguous that I can't help but to think that he wasn't involved in the bulk of it and is merely commenting on it in a historical perspective:

::The Doctor has misinformed us, or he has believed wrongly about the following involving the Last Great Time War:
  • The Timelords were peaceloving: By the end of the war, they try to destroy to destroy all of existence...this is questionably any more peace-loving than the Daleks.
  • Davros is dead: Davros says, " Hello, Doctor."
  • He has exterminated the Daleks: well, he hasn't, and they're thriving...
  • He is the last of his kind: "Oooh..new voice...Hello, there..."
  • There is no way to make contact with what was inside the timelock: Dalek Caan answers "Hey Davros! I'm just dropping by from outside the Time War. You wanna temporal shift together?" Doctor answers, "well, except Dalek Caan, it costed him his sanity." Daleks from/from before the Time War come out from the void. The whole of Gallifrey time travels to the Humanitarian Era; all the Timelords pop out. Someone who is possible the Doctor's mom pops up all the time in random places on Earth. Rassilon throws a diamond into space DURING the centre of teh Time War, and it reaches Earth in Humanitarian Era. Even K9 Mark I mysteriously pops up in the Humanitarian Era. Basically, everything from the Time War is here.
  • With the Timelords gone, it is impossible to travel to another universe: except someone does it almost every series since series 2.
  • I am the last of the Timelords, the Laws of Time obey me: they don't and Adelaide [sp] still dies...
Not to mention everytime the Doctor says "can't be" about something, the thing is certain to happen. Now that I come to think of it...almost every point he made about the Time War is wrong...and he is as reliable as an ignorant renegade Timelord who wasn't really involved in the Time War and merely commenting on it in a historical perspective...which makes sense, since he only mentioned that he was involved in ending it and seeing Davros' fall and didn't say anything about him being in the actual Time War. Moreover, we know the following:
  • During(? In?) the centre of the Time War, the Doctor is not on the Timelord's side.
  • The Doctor doesn't know the Master was resurrected.
  • The Doctor doesn't know anything about the Dalek prison in the Void, and he couldn't even recognize it as a Timelord prison ship.

While the Last Great Time War is certainly a significan event, there is really no indication that it is anything more than another adventure for the Doctor (maybe a really sad one) where he was only involved in ending it.

--222.166.181.228 08:24, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
What about when he told about how he was on the front lines and that he was there for the fall of Elysium [sp?]? 82.33.57.244 09:08, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
Well...all indications say he wasn't...and he could be at the front line of the war when he tried to end it I guess...I mean he really knows nothing about either sides of the War ...I just don't get it...Almost everything he said about the War turns out to be false...--222.166.181.201 07:44, August 1, 2010 (UTC)