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 ::::::A wiki isn't just about how it looks, it's all the editing and work flow behind the scenes of the wiki and these issues the visual editor throws in really make any editing work twice as long as it should be. Being able to read an article be it when editing or when looking at the published version is at the top, and with the coding issues that the visual editor introduces it makes reading an article while in edit mode ''difficult''. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:44, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
-i tend to prefer to stick to the forums on this website, and at least there it is much easier to work with visual editor imo because if one isn't doing big fancy edits in the main parts of the wiki, it is easier for me at least to work with a visual or any sort of wysiwyg layout.  also, as i don't know much about source formatting i am always nervous when forced to edit in source that i will accidentally delete a character or something that is important for the layout.  i understand that for the main body of the wiki there might be bigger problems that could be fixed with only using source, but could you leave the forums the option for visual editing?  [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 03:38, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
+*i tend to prefer to stick to the forums on this website, and at least there it is much easier to work with visual editor imo because if one isn't doing big fancy edits in the main parts of the wiki, it is easier for me at least to work with a visual or any sort of wysiwyg layout.  also, as i don't know much about source formatting i am always nervous when forced to edit in source that i will accidentally delete a character or something that is important for the layout.  i understand that for the main body of the wiki there might be bigger problems that could be fixed with only using source, but could you leave the forums the option for visual editing?  [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 03:38, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
 :Unfortunately, no, it's not a [[namespace]]-based tool.  It's either on or it's off. If you're nervous about source editing, i recommend you start with the primer at [[help:editing]] and then move on to our guide to [[help:wiki markup|wiki markup]].  Basic editing in source is honestly not hard.  And it's a bit faster, cause you're not having to wait for the WYSIWIG translation. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">16:19: Fri&nbsp;30 Dec 2011&nbsp;</span>
 ::If you're just editing on the forums then source editing won't be much trouble at all. All linking, and letter styling can be done from the keyboard and the use of the punctuation keys. I feel though, I should note our [[Tardis:Discussion policy]] at this point. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:15, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
-looking at the tardis discussion policy at the point i think you are directing at me, i'm wondering why can't the forums be my primary mode of contribution?  i rarely see anything in the main articles that i believe i can add to.  arg, this is violating the rule about getting off topic.  i am genuinely sorry.  but i would still like an answer.  should i start another thread for that?  [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 12:55, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
+:::looking at the tardis discussion policy at the point i think you are directing at me, i'm wondering why can't the forums be my primary mode of contribution?  i rarely see anything in the main articles that i believe i can add to.  arg, this is violating the rule about getting off topic.  i am genuinely sorry.  but i would still like an answer.  should i start another thread for that?  [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 12:55, January 3, 2012 (UTC)
-:No one is saying that the forums can't be your main contribution.  If you just wanna hang out and offer your opinions, you're certainly welcome to.  The point I was trying to make was that visual editor cannot be turned off ''by namespace''.  It's not possible to turn it off in the main article space, but leave it on here in the forums.  I hope that answers your question, but I'm not sure if that's what you were asking.  If I haven't answered your question, please do let me know. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">03:25: Thu&nbsp;05 Jan 2012&nbsp;</span>
+::::No one is saying that the forums can't be your main contribution.  If you just wanna hang out and offer your opinions, you're certainly welcome to.  The point I was trying to make was that visual editor cannot be turned off ''by namespace''.  It's not possible to turn it off in the main article space, but leave it on here in the forums.  I hope that answers your question, but I'm not sure if that's what you were asking.  If I haven't answered your question, please do let me know. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">03:25: Thu&nbsp;05 Jan 2012&nbsp;</span>
-::Wow.  Okay.  I have to be honest and tell you that I didn't know [[tardis:discussion policy]] said that forum posting shouldn't be one's primary contribution to the wiki.  I ''really'' didn't know that it threatened ''blocking'' for that editing pattern.  Sorry bout that.  Yes, if you want to protest that provision — and obviously my earlier post has betrayed the fact that I'd support you — you would need to start a separate forum thread.  This thread is about disabling the visual editor, not whether it's right to block people just because the majority of their edits are in the forum namespace. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">03:30: Thu&nbsp;05 Jan 2012&nbsp;</span>
+:::::Wow.  Okay.  I have to be honest and tell you that I didn't know [[tardis:discussion policy]] said that forum posting shouldn't be one's primary contribution to the wiki.  I ''really'' didn't know that it threatened ''blocking'' for that editing pattern.  Sorry bout that.  Yes, if you want to protest that provision — and obviously my earlier post has betrayed the fact that I'd support you — you would need to start a separate forum thread.  This thread is about disabling the visual editor, not whether it's right to block people just because the majority of their edits are in the forum namespace. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">03:30: Thu&nbsp;05 Jan 2012&nbsp;</span>
 *'''Don't remove RTE'''. I am a total codemonkey for fun and profit but I side with the Wikipedia founders in trying to elevate the population to a code-free lifestyle.