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And you know this from your centuries spent studying Sontaran psychology? | And you know this from your centuries spent studying Sontaran psychology? I apologize for the sarcasm.... no, I don't. Given a species which manages to include gun-toting Christians, Quakers like Richard Nixon -- and that's just the mainstream US; I'm sure that other nations have their own mass loonies, judging by news of football hooligans and at least one South American war started over a soccer match -- to argue that a species of warlike cloned potatoes would only start a war they felt they could win easily strikes me as overreaching. That's far too common an occurrence in these pages, and people whine that because they can't understand the intricacies of multi-dimensional time, it must be wrong..... even while they accept a bowtie-wearing alien travelling around all of space and time in a wooden box that's bigger on the inside. Given that we pink weasels can accept the last, why do we constantly proclaim that any of the foregoing is hard to accept? [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 22:01, January 22, 2012 (UTC) | ||
That paragraph could probably be summed up in one semtence, but I'd agree that the Sontarans will start any war whether they have a chance of winning or not. [[Special:Contributions/94.72.237.220|94.72.237.220]]<sup>[[User talk:94.72.237.220#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC) | That paragraph could probably be summed up in one semtence, but I'd agree that the Sontarans will start any war whether they have a chance of winning or not. [[Special:Contributions/94.72.237.220|94.72.237.220]]<sup>[[User talk:94.72.237.220#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC) | ||
Describing the Sontarans as warlike cloned potatoes is also was to simple a way of looking at them. Yes, they enjoy war, but that doesn't mean that they'll randomly go to war with the Cybermen, or anyone else, for no reason. The Sontarans would probably not go to war with the Cybermen just for the honor of combat. They already have a war with the Rutans for that. If they were to go to war with the Cybermen, then it would be either to get something from them, or to prevent their own destruction. A war with the Cybermen would have the potential to last just as long as the one with the Rutans, and the Rutans would likely take advantage of this distraction. There are also many other powerful species in the universe, so if the Sontarans were to start another war, it would be just as likely to be with the Daleks, Dominators, Raxicoricofalapatorians, Earth Empire, Galactic Federation, or any of the other countless races who we haven't even seen.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 00:34, January 23, 2012 (UTC) | Describing the Sontarans as warlike cloned potatoes is also was to simple a way of looking at them. Yes, they enjoy war, but that doesn't mean that they'll randomly go to war with the Cybermen, or anyone else, for no reason. The Sontarans would probably not go to war with the Cybermen just for the honor of combat. They already have a war with the Rutans for that. If they were to go to war with the Cybermen, then it would be either to get something from them, or to prevent their own destruction. A war with the Cybermen would have the potential to last just as long as the one with the Rutans, and the Rutans would likely take advantage of this distraction. There are also many other powerful species in the universe, so if the Sontarans were to start another war, it would be just as likely to be with the Daleks, Dominators, Raxicoricofalapatorians, Earth Empire, Galactic Federation, or any of the other countless races who we haven't even seen.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 00:34, January 23, 2012 (UTC) | ||
It's an oversimplified way of lookibg at the Sontarans, admittedly, but not totally wrong. The Sontarans have taken on other enemies, even while still fighting the Rutans. They haven't, though, set out to start a second full-scale, long-term war while still engaged against the Rutans. They've miscalculated a few times -- and pulled out when it became clear they'd taken on too much. However, the discussion was meant to be about whether or not the Sontarans would really destroy the Rutans, if they got the chance. The consensus so far seems to be: If they did get the chance, the prospect of being left with nobody to fight wouldn't stop them, because they could find someone else to fight and, even if they didn't set out to get themselves a replacement enemy, their normal behaviour would probably get them into a war with somebody before too long, anyway. --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.77.125|89.241.77.125]]<sup>[[User talk:89.241.77.125#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:24, January 23, 2012 (UTC) |