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czechout<staff />    <span style="">15:30: Tue 20 Dec 2011 

Meanwhile in the TARDIS

Heya :) Thanks for stopping by :)

Before I even read these articles, I gotta ask where you got the names. Is there an actual source for Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1, for example?
czechout<staff />    <span style="">16:48: Sat 23 Jun 2012 

Okay, I think that you've created these articles in a largely satisfactory way, techniclally. The infoboxes, layout and categories all seem to be fine — with a few provisos that I'll detail below.
The real question, though, is whether the articles should exist at all. As far as I'm aware, the only on-screen title is "Meanwhile in the TARDIS". I'm pretty sure there's no on-screen designation that separates them. The reason the singular Meanwhile in the TARDIS has persisted for so long around here is that there is no alternate title available. Thus, there are a lot of citations done throughout the wiki that simply point to the unified article. To suddenly now have two articles would necessitate some manual relinking. I'm not necessarily opposed to that on grounds of "how much work it will be", but it is concerning to be using a title that we've just made up. The 1 and the 2 are, I think, entirely arbitrary, and assume that you watch them in "disc order", which not everyone does, nor would everyone be obliged to do.
It's a mistake to think that the series 5 extra scenes need to be formatted in the same way as the series 6 ones, because they factually did not have the same format. The series 6 things had individual titles which the series 5 extras did not enjoy. On those grounds I think I favor the merger of your new pages back into the unitary article. However, I can understand the impulse to separate them, so I think you should put the matter up for discussion at Forum:Panopticon.
To offer criticism on just the technical aspects of the writing:
  • Cast/crew not actually credited should be listed in a section clearly labelled "Uncredited". I'm not sure that we know from the episodes alone, for instance, who directed and produced the eps. (I could be wrong, though, cause I don't have them to hand at the moment.)
  • In infoboxes, if you're going to have navigation, you must also employ the {{{series}}} variable. It must be clear to what the navigation pertains. In this case, you could have double navigation, really: One for Meanwhile in the TARDIS and another for the Moffat era DVD extras, so Category:Stories exclusive to DVD.
  • Be aware that our manual of style discourages links within headings. Your wikification of links to your two newly created articles from the section heads at Meanwhile in the TARDIS is ineffectual, because our section head color is the same as our link color; people just don't see links in section heads on this wiki. (You will nevertheless find linked section heads a lot on this wik, but these instances mostly come from a time when these links were more obvious because we used no CSS styling at all.)
  • You should avoid adding sections that will never be used. For instance, there will never be ratings for either of these, since they weren't braodcast.
  • With things that aren't broadcast, you should use {{{release date}}} not {{{broadcast date}}}
  • We've been really trying to eliminate the use of parentheticals in infoboxes (see, for instance forum:Infobox: First variable) so it's enough for the {{{season}}} variable to be Series 5, period.
  • Note that {{TitleTV}} assumes your page is actually titled in the format Name (TV story). Becuase this page isn't actually entitled that way, {{TitleTV}} is giving a false impression, which will confuse readers. Again, though, we need to establish via the forums whether this article should exist, and what name we actually want to use, before we get too bothered with how this template is working.
Hope that was helpful and thanks again for your work. Please do remember to start a forum discussion about whether we should keep these two articles. Even if we do decide to revert to a single article, I'm sure your work will be largely preserved in the main.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">17:56: Sat 23 Jun 2012