Talk:Monk (species)

Veritas

Aren't these creatures supposed to be the Veritas (species)? They seem like they are. --DCLM ☎ 18:17, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

– The preceding unsigned comment was added by GiganotosaurusPrimeval (talk • contribs) .

What has that got to do with my question? --DCLM ☎ 00:34, May 22, 2017 (UTC) It was supposed to be a separate Question --GiganotosaurusPrimeval ☎ 10:07, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

The Veritas have nothing to do with this species, for various reasons, the most important one being that the Monks are deceptive and the Veritas hate lying. OS25 (Talk) 01:27, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

"The Monks" or "Monk (species)"

Per T:NAMING, I would say that this should be Monk (species), not "The Monks]". Unless the name refers to a group, sect or organisation, I would assume, with the information we have so far, we are taking about a species. As long as you can say "a Monk", with regards to these creatures, this page should absolutely be moved there.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 03:43, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you, however, I suspect that we may be getting a different name relatively soon. So I wouldn't rush such a renaming. OS25 (Talk) 04:25, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

Moffat had said that he couldn't reveal the real names of the Monk, but the three parter is over and the Monks is all we got. As they invaded before according to Missy, I think Monks (species) is a good rename. StevieGLiverpool ☎ 22:03, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, we're talking Monk (species): singular, not plural.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 22:43, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Sentience

It is debatable whether the people actually gained sentience because they could have just been following the program still.Like the program predicted that if people did find out they weren't real and were part of a program they would kill themselves.Of course this wasn't how the Monks intended the program too work because the real people on Earth aren't programs and thus such a situation wouldn't occur but it was inevitably part of the simulation due to it not being an completely accurate depiction of Earth.

The real Doctor would likely have done the same thing as the Doctor they made when finding out about the monks plan if he found out he wasn't real so again this was potentially just part of the program but the Monks weren't expecting the Doctor to defeat them in the simulation in such a way that the real Doctor would find out about them.

It is worth noting it is actually impossible to work out whether something is sentient without being the person.--GiganotosaurusPrimeval ☎ 10:07, May 24, 2017 (UTC)